Catch and Release Catch and Keep Debates In Fishing Reports

[FunkMasterSnowshoe]

I have personally caught bass on salmon eggs as well.  They were suspended from a bobber, but several bass never got the memo that they don't eat eggs.  That said, I think there are certain days on the water where you couldn;t find something to hang from a bobber that a bass won't eat.

[TC]

Like many fish, bass are opportunistic feeders.  If they are swimming along and just happen upon a salmon egg dangling in front of them, I have no doubt that one in a thousand will take the bait.  However, the de-bait (jk) is about bass being nest raiders.  I do not think, based on years of experience and nobody has produced evidence to cause me to think otherwise, that bass, especially adults, are nest raiders.  If you can prove otherwise, please do so, but until then...

[roadkill]

were they laying on the bottom or suspended?

both, but mostly weightless on the fall

[captlou]

I have been following this thread to some extent. Wanting to chime in because, well, just feel like chiming in.

I see pix of species caught and kept that are not assisted w/replenishment in this state by the DOW and it makes me feel woozy.  Is it not yet apparent that it is much cheaper and easier to stroll down to the local Albertson's or K soopers and grab a few fillets of what ever you please than to chase fish at $4 a gallon o' gas  plus bait and lures to be lost etc?!? 

Walleyes, kokes and trout are stocked regularly. Everything else, for the most part,  is not in CO.  If you keep a big bass, you keep many more to come, naturally.  Their fight is greater than their taste will ever be.

My wife made the best farm raised Atlantic salmon on the grill a couple weeks ago, I swear, I wanted to give up fishing and become a salmon shopper!!! 

But I resisted and knew that fishing was more than eating. It was the feel of the bite, the hook set and the fight that made it so glorious. If I landed it or not, didn't matter. Just a bite was a little thrill in and of itself.

So I just want to say that we really need to think as a fisher person, not starving for our next meal, whether or not that fish we keep will be supplemented by DOW or not?!?

If you can afford to buy something at the store, why don't you?

Fish for the love of fishing.

ps - Took 5 friends from work fishing a private S. park stream last Sunday. Some fly fished, some spinners/bait (me). Over 150 brown trout ranging from 7-15" between us. 1 kept for a snack. I caught half of that number and never even blinked an eye when I threw each one back. Only 1 trout swallowed the wormed hook, bit the line and I hope he/she will crap it out. If not, 2 trout died that day.

[cggoldens]

My wife made the best farm raised Atlantic salmon on the grill a couple weeks ago, I swear, I wanted to give up fishing and become a salmon shopper!!! 

Those farmed salmon cause MANY more problems than an angler keeping his dinner.

Willi

[zman]

More problems...I am curious...please elaborate...

[John]

My wife made the best farm raised Atlantic salmon on the grill a couple weeks ago, I swear, I wanted to give up fishing and become a salmon shopper!!! 

Those farmed salmon cause MANY more problems than an angler keeping his dinner.

Willi

Farmed salmon operations can become a point source of pollution but I think that is comparing apples to oranges.

[captlou]

Maine apples to Colorado Oranges!   

[gofindyourowndamnfish]

More problems...I am curious...please elaborate...

For starters-----

http://www.puresalmon.org/issues.html

http://www.grinningplanet.com/2004/02-26/farmed-salmon-pollution-gmo-eco.htm

[Ramparttroller]

1.  You people are angry is that what i have to look forward to when I get in to my 50s?  Thank god that is 25years away.  I think most of you need to go out fishing some more espescaily at night one look up on a moonless night and seeing the milky way will make all your anger disapear.

2.  I have to agree with most people in this thread, a debate about c&k and c&r should be on another thread post in a PM or other meas of comunication.  It doesn't matter if this guy kept one and you didn't keep one.  What ever floats your boat, floats it.  I chose to do do both. most day I wil c&r espescaily if the fish is under 15" but other days I get one and it is such a nice fish I know I want to take it home and cook it up and I do. I normaly only keep one becuase my wife does not like fish.  Corect me if I am wrong but I read somewhere the average 'bow lives only 7 years. So if you catch a big one its probably going to die before ones grandkids can chatch it (depending on your age,grandkids age, or whether or not you even have grandkids).  I know for little local lakes that stockes hevaly through the year the entier pupose of that is for you to keep what you chatch. They go as far as cliping off a fin so you can tell which ones are stockers(C&K) on which one not to(C&R). if they dont do this for that reason, then every place that gets stocked needs to be C&R, so they can stop wasting my tax money with the amount of trips they need to do to keep everything stocked.

3.  If Bass are opertunistic feeders and preditors than it would be more than safe to assume that they would eat eggs and maybe raid a nest hear or two.  I took the debate as whether they eat eggs or not, not whether they raid nest, eat eggs and run or not. Raiding nests was brought up to much later in the debate that is currently online and available for me to read. Proof gets asked for and it is provided and all i see in return is no proof to the contrary.  If a statment doesn't say something in it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.   The best analigy I can come up with is when people ask if God is real and they can't show proff that he real or is not real, so now its up to you to belive what you want.  I am not trying to start a relegious debate with that statement so PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE dont write back and start one.  I was just useing it as a retorical statment.

For future referance If I get the PRIVIEGE to fish with any of you FINE PEOPLE and I end up keeping one or two and you are a staunch C&R person please DO NOT get into it with me out on the lake/river.  I go fishing becuase it takes all the stress away from life for me. I go to school for 16credit hours M-F and work 40hrs a week too, fishing is my one and only realse not a place for me to get into it about Animal rights.
Thats all I have to say about any of this for now but I do have more if any one wants to chat privately.

[ThunderSkunk03]

Touchy subject.

[gofindyourowndamnfish]

You people are angry is that what i have to look forward to when I get in to my 50s?  Thank god that is 25years away. 

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For future referance If I get the PRIVIEGE to fish with any of you FINE PEOPLE and I end up keeping one or two and you are a staunch C&R person please DO NOT get into it with me out on the lake/river. 

Maybe what you need, RT is a few more years of experience on this planet, particularly in trhe metro area, and watch some of your favorite waters overrun and decimated by the harvest pigs.

Maybe then you\'ll understand.  If we are going to have decent sport fishing in this state, particularly in urban areas, and for quality fish, catch and release of big fish simply has to become the norm, not the exception.

[TC]

 
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Maybe what you need, RT is a few more years of experience on this planet, particularly in trhe metro area, and watch some of your favorite waters overrun and decimated by the harvest pigs.

Maybe then you\'ll understand.  If we are going to have decent sport fishing in this state, particularly in urban areas, and for quality fish, catch and release of big fish simply has to become the norm, not the exception.
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AMEN BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HOGMASTER]

 

Maybe what you need, RT is a few more years of experience on this planet, particularly in trhe metro area, and watch some of your favorite waters overrun and decimated by the harvest pigs.

Maybe then you\'ll understand.  If we are going to have decent sport fishing in this state, particularly in urban areas, and for quality fish, catch and release of big fish simply has to become the norm, not the exception.
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AMEN BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RT read this!!
 http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/fishing/news/story?page=world_record_bass_dies

Great Story way better than having all our water be a Dinkfest!!  Save your gas and time and buy fish at the Kings or Safeway!!

[RyJ]

I just love all the hypocrisy that abounds in this debate. Every fisherman has thier "pet" species that they "protect" for whatever justifiable reason, while they have a freezer full of fillets of another species. Chances are someone feels the same way about the species you keep that you do your "pet" species. The avid trout fisherman by nature won't care as much about pike or bass populations, and the bass fisherman won't care as much about trout populations.

The way I see it you can't really have it both ways. If you do like to keep fish, please be selective and take into account size of lake.

DISCLAIMER: by using the word "you" I am in no way pointing fingers at you specifically!