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Old 10-04-2013, 09:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I made a trip up to Wyoming last week. I caught fish on many flies but San Juan's were by far the best producing. While fishing, I noticed that the leading portion of my San Juans had a tendency to fold back in an unnatural fashion. Perhaps you too have noticed this. This got me thinking about possible improvements.

Now, all the San Juans in my box, and every other one I have seen, have the hook positioned in the center of the worm. I assume this is positioning of the hook is intended to induce an off balance wobble. Has anyone positioned the hook at the front of the worm? If so, did you notice a did fence
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I haven't changed the location of the hook, because I want to keep the collar in a natural location.

I have used other materials, such as chamois and contractor string.

Where in WY?
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I hit both the reef and the mile. Nothing huge, but they all were nice.

Looks like I might being some field research and A/B split testing!
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Old 10-05-2013, 01:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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My head hurts when I think about improving a worm. It doesn't bother me if the leading portion folds back. It's a worm.

If I dwell on it too much, I will end up using an egg. Maybe a pegged egg at that.

Ouch, my head is hurting again!
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Maybe it only folds back unnaturally with drag, i.e., during a drag-free drift, maybe it's natural. Time to don the scuba gear.
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Dubbn, FUNNY GUY !!! I have coated the entire worm with hard as nails, it soaks in and makes it rigid, I don't like that. I think you are noticing it when you pull your rig in against the current, it may go back to normal when it is back in the water.
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it only bends when there is tension on the line.. when it is being drifted, it is likely moving with small currents.. don't sweat it.
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CRAP!!!!! Now that I think about it, I have spent way to much time changing my ties on the SJW. I have used a ton of different hooks and body materials. now my head hurts
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Yeah, there are tons of different things people do with the SJ. I've seen guys take pink rubberlegs or spanflex and make them with that, extra wiggly.

I sometimes use the sparkle braid chenille for them but really found they are too gawdy and only work in super muddy water.

I do like the tan chamois strip worms as well.
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What about tying in a pipe cleaner. That should keep it's shape....Maybe trim it a bit?
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