I had one of those as a kid...Was about 6 years old and my dad took me fishing in our old wooden boat. He was facing backwards fishing and I was facing forward fishing. I somehow got it all tangled up inside and threw it in the lake out of frustration. My dad turned around looked at me and said "Where's your pole?" I said something like "I threw it in the lake because it was no good". We still laugh about that on occasion to this day...He's 87 now. That's the only info I have them.