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Old 05-18-2014, 05:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default I want dillon to become a pike fishery.

adding on to fordo's deleted thread... and these are my opinions.

I'm serious.

All the right ingredients are there... shallow back bays, weeds, tons of suckers to eat. why hasn't someone made this happen? at this point, I don't give a damn... someone should dump a bucket of fingerling pike from a private hatchery in there. yeah, I'm a dick. but I'm the type of person that will say what the majority only think about.

and before someone says "we need to cater to the endangered species on the colorado river"... some food for thought for you, and I will reiterate what I and others have said on this forum.

The green river above fontinelle lake in wyoming is effed. tons of burbot live in there and they live all over flaming gorge, and are taking over the river below the lake, which the yampa dumps into not far away from there. its only a matter of time until the burbots are in the river around craig. the yampa is filled with "undesirable" species that do great in there, from channel catfish to smallies, to northern pike. this river eventually feeds into the colorado too.

I'm gonna also say the fishing in the green below fontinelle is incredible. lots of big fat trout, big kokanee, and at night if you so desire... you can target the burbots which you can see at night there. the yampa, nothing needs to be said about the river, and the lakes that feed into it. best pike fishing in the state IMO.

the colorado river already has pike and warmwater species in it, because of lake powell and the fact that pike have been caught downstream of williams fork. no matter the effort wildlife management makes... youre not going to kill all the non native fish. and getting to my belief on "non native"...

Fish are naturally stocked in alot of gravel pits, ponds, etc. etc by waterfowl and fish eating birds, as well as naturally occurring floods. as arrogant as it sounds, what we are doing would have happened eventually through nature. I am a believer in thinking that native species have a right to exist, but I try to live with the balanced thinking that as humans, we've modified so much of nature that instead of trying to go back in hopes that things will be the way they were, we should move forward.

with that said, people have said my opinions of some of the summit county/grand county lakes were just absurd... I just want to ask, Why? why would it be absurd to catch species like smallmouth bass, walleye or pike in lakes like Dillon? they throw walleye in higher mountain lakes in the wind river range in wyoming. flathead lake is a place where you can catch bass in the shallows if you are tired of chasing char species. or just go to effing canada where it's colder but they grow quality fish. or if you want local examples.... CHEESMAN LAKE. even though they were illegally introduced... green mtn reservoir. lake estes before the floods.

I'm just tired of reading about how the CPW wants to stock tiger muskies. to me and i'm not a biologist so I'm just speaking from the soapbox of opinion here.... tiger muskies don't live long, they don't spawn and they just seem like a bandaid. Id much rather see pike or straight up muskellunge stocked in some of these higher, weedy lakes.

and if the CPW just wants a boutique fishery for unique species... why not some of the high alpine lakes?
why hasn't anyone thought of using summit lake? it's super deep. it holds fish. nobody cares about the place and it'd be easier to stock and manage arctic char there. or loch lomond, or fall river reservoir... or urad lake?

sorry, I just wanted a rant. I haven't posted here in a while legitimately other than a quick check on my iphone... and I was reading some of the threads on here.
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Old 05-19-2014, 02:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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That's all the tiger musky are, a bandaid. They are practically pointless and will only provide maybe 5 years of resolution and good fishing. How does someone got about privately stocking a lake, do these private hatcherys exist? Are they just people breeding fish in their backyards lol, thatd be fucking awesome
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Old 05-19-2014, 09:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Pike's in Dillon sounds like a reasonable idea to me!!
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Stock Bad fish? Are you out of your mind? Ok we already know the answer. Be happy and go catch a state record Arctic Char, after dumping in close to 300,000 Rainbow fingerlings annually the last 3 years somethings gotta be growing there. How can Alaska grow arctic Char to 5lbs in hatcheries to stock in lakes and our premier Arctic Char record after well over 20 years in Dillon is a measly 3lbs and 21"s.
I know I know, everything's bigger in Alaska and our fishing sucks, thats why I'm outa here.
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I know of a few lakes that are over populated with hammer handles! And I did just score 20 brand new 5 gallon buckets at a yard sale for $4.................
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If predation of kokanne salmon at Dillon is a concern to the CPW, then The Shit just hit the Effin fan..... state record sized arctic char hammering down on fingerling rainbows. If this arctic char can fit 2 in its gut, and one on the way in, plus strike my lure, than how Voracious are they?? What are the arctic char going to do to the kokanne? Through the ice I found Arctic Char that were hammering kokanne eggs. Just one more example of the Good fish bad fish syndrome.
Now you have a species thats going to the same thing to the kokanne that lake trout would have. However, arctic char, or lake trout predation on kokanne is not a bad thing. Watch and see the quality of kokanne that turn up this thangsgiving. We are going to see larger kokanne than in the past. the silver ones I saw this winter busted 14"

So you see, its OK for Arctic Char to eat kokanne and trout. They are a "Good Fish".




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If predation of kokanne salmon at Dillon is a concern to the CPW, then The Shit just hit the Effin fan..... state record sized arctic char hammering down on fingerling rainbows. If this arctic char can fit 2 in its gut, and one on the way in, plus strike my lure, than how Voracious are they?? What are the arctic char going to do to the kokanne? Through the ice I found Arctic Char that were hammering kokanne eggs. Just one more example of the Good fish bad fish syndrome.
Now you have a species thats going to the same thing to the kokanne that lake trout would have. However, arctic char, or lake trout predation on kokanne is not a bad thing. Watch and see the quality of kokanne that turn up this thangsgiving. We are going to see larger kokanne than in the past. the silver ones I saw this winter busted 14"






Did you clean and eat the state record?
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Did you clean and eat the state record?
I don't know, i didn't wiegh it, it was 20". i did eat it.
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I don't know, i didn't wiegh it, it was 20". i did eat it.
Good, that means we won't need to rename you, "Chardo".
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Hell, I'm calling him Chardo.
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