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Old 03-21-2016, 07:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Colorado Fisheries Biologist Jon Ewert's blog on Green Mountain...part 1 is the good news part 2 is the bad news...

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Interesting read Mark. Time will tell I guess...
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The almighty lake trout will prevail, and the bigger ones will be shown to be the heroes of the fishery. With the absence of rainbows and kokanne, they will even more so hammer the hell out of the suckers, and cannibalize the over population of their own young. Snaggers wont be piled up at the inlet in the fall, but at $20 bucks a pop, snagging pike might get popular.
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$20 bounties on Northern Pike in Green Mountain Res... Nice!
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Thanks for posting up Zman.

Interesting read for sure.
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It would be worth it to catch 50 hammer handles at Spinney ice them and drive them to Green mountain!...I kid...
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Thanks for posting up Zman.

Interesting read for sure.
I would like to take credit but Grababrewski texted me about it...
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The almighty lake trout will prevail, and the bigger ones will be shown to be the heroes of the fishery. With the absence of rainbows and kokanne, they will even more so hammer the hell out of the suckers, and cannibalize the over population of their own young. Snaggers wont be piled up at the inlet in the fall, but at $20 bucks a pop, snagging pike might get popular.
Yes they will prevail but now that the large fish are shown to be at an all time high body to weight ratio on his graph without any stocked fish they will surely lose weight over time.


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A couple messages that I get on a regular basis from the lake trout angling community are an almost universal lack of support for kokanee in Colorado, and and the assertion that we can have perfectly good trophy lake trout fisheries based on a sucker prey base alone. These two positions are totally misguided - and quite possibly tragic for the future of trophy lakers in this state - but we've seen over and over again that it doesn't matter how many times we try to communicate this. Here is our golden opportunity to test these theories.


At least this time he is letting us know about the test rather than doing it at Granby with 3 years of Rainbow shortages without anyone knowing, then blaming it all on budget cuts when I discovered what was going on.

Whats misguided is this whole experiment along with the assumption that there is almost universal anti support among Lake trout Anglers for Kokanee.

As an avid Lake Trout and Kokanee angler I spent a huge amount of time, effort and equipment trying to maintain Kokanee in the state. At times more than the managers themselves.
When the Kokanee crashed at Lake Granby in 99 and we were losing our Kokanee egg supplies the Dow was taking aim at the Lake Trout. It took huge effort to convince the biologists to start taking eggs from Williams Fork and other smaller Reservoirs.

Yes Large Lake Trout will survive without Kokanee or Rainbows as Fordo says they will as they already do eat Suckers and smaller Lakers but they will Not do as well as they would with the added benefits of Kokanee and Rainbows.
Without stocked fish the Large Lakers will forage even more on smaller Lakers reducing there populations. We may see a small downturn of smaller lakers at Green mtn due to this but due to the 8 fish open limit without any protection on larger fish there I doubt there are enough large lakers to make much of a difference.
Of course the large Lakers at Granby have a general lower weight to length ratio as other areas, Granby is not a productive Reservoir and Green mtn is.

Not stocking any Rainbows at Green mtn. due to Pike and Gill lice will only be detrimental to the many Anglers that fish there.
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The almighty lake trout will prevail, and the bigger ones will be shown to be the heroes of the fishery. With the absence of rainbows and kokanne, they will even more so hammer the hell out of the suckers, and cannibalize the over population of their own young. Snaggers wont be piled up at the inlet in the fall, but at $20 bucks a pop, snagging pike might get popular.
Fordo...trout and salmon have to be less work for a big laker dont you think since they are more open water freely swimming fish as compared to bottom hugging blend in suckers?
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