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CadenceKing 01-07-2017 05:56 PM

Antero tiger muskies?
 
Just read over on FXR about rumors of stocking tiger muskies into Antero since they have not been able to control sucker numbers this past decade. Anyone know if there is an ounce of truth to this?? Or does anyone have any other details like if they have stocked trout yet or when it may open? Definitely intrigued by the possibilities of TMs there, but it doesn't seem like Colorado stocks them in big enough numbers in most lakes compared to other states to make them worth targeting.

walleye seeker 01-07-2017 07:35 PM

I have doubts that Denver water would allow it. I know that years ago they said if one pike was proved to be caught there, they would close the lake to fishing

CadenceKing 01-07-2017 07:59 PM

Why would they care what species are in there though? Denver Water owns Eleven Mile and Cheesman and they have pike. I don't think they can tell CPW how to manage it if they lease it to them to as a fishery. Still sounds unlikely regardless. I just have been hoping that Colorado would see the success stories from Utah, New Mexico, and Idaho about aggressive tiger muskie stocking and maybe follow along.

fishinghunter14 01-07-2017 08:12 PM

It's the same as what was going on at Harvey gap. Whoever owns the lake has the authority cause technically they own the water. If they say no Muskie and CPW puts them in them they can close the lake to everything if they wanted.
At Harvey they said the dam needs work were draining it, get ur fish out best you can. It's just the way it is, I'm not sure why they would care what species was in it unless the head honcho wants trout only cause he hates pike. Maybe the group has agreements of what kind of fishery each is to benefit everyone on the board who knows.


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JohnnyO19 01-07-2017 09:39 PM

I've heard that rumor too, would be interesting

fishmanlee 01-07-2017 11:32 PM

Denver Water owns water in Gross and it has muskies. The water agencies don't give two shits about what fish are in there. Their primary responsibility is to supply water to its customers. Yes, I understand water drainages and species integration, but tigers will never be an environmental issue as they are sterile.

whompuscat658 01-08-2017 03:23 PM

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Why are suckers so much more of a problem there than spinney or the mile? Is it the lack of species like pike or muskie?

Neal/CO 01-08-2017 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by whompuscat658 (Post 1900106)
Why are suckers so much more of a problem there than spinney or the mile? Is it the lake of species like pike or muskie?

Shallow and weedy and no pike to keep them in check.

slayerfish 01-11-2017 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal/CO (Post 1900114)
Shallow and weedy and no pike to keep them in check.

This^^^.

rivrunnr1 01-11-2017 12:55 PM

It's amazing to me how many top notch fishing lakes have pike in them. Gotta be something to that. Maybe someone will cotton on....

jamiehughes 01-12-2017 02:49 PM

and then we have spinney..having pike in there sure has made that a great fishery..lol..not.

Oyey 01-12-2017 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jamiehughes (Post 1902297)
and then we have spinney..having pike in there sure has made that a great fishery..lol..not.

Explain?

Bionic Man 01-12-2017 03:11 PM

I will say we caught more big trout out of spinney 20 years ago. But fishing pressure was different then as was the "new lake effect".


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vinnie 01-12-2017 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bionic Man (Post 1902321)
I will say we caught more big trout out of spinney 20 years ago. But fishing pressure was different then as was the "new lake effect".


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Back in the 80's when Spin open it was full of big cutthroat trout. 5-10lb cutts were common especially the first couple weeks after iceoff. Guess that's when Spinney got it's reputation and opening day madness. When the cutts expired DOW stocked rainbows and now the whirling desease free Hoffer rainbow.
The Hoffers grow fast but seldom over 22-23in. If you hook a 25"+ it prolly came as a Antero transplant when they drained that.
Do miss the early days but with a 20"average today on dryflys can't complain.

Anteroman 01-14-2017 12:35 PM

Antero Tigers and trout.
 
I understand that Tigers have been put in the lake for sucker control. As most of you are aware, Tigers are sterile so the Musky situation at both 11 Mile and Spinney Mountain will not occur.

(Reproduction. Cross-breeding of the true muskellunge and the northern pike occurs naturally in the wild where both parent species occur. The tiger muskie is sterile, which is not unusual for a hybrid fish. ... Tiger muskie usually grow more quickly than the pure-strain muskie and northern pike in the first several years.)

The lake currently has 15' of water and hopefully will be raised to 18' with the Spring runoff. Based on information on the Denver Water website it would be possible we'll see the lake opened back up sometime in 2017.

It will be nice having a third option in South Park this summer.

Bill


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