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Old 06-20-2007, 06:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Don't forget about the carp tourney this Saturday at Sloans. Top finisher gets a trophy and there are tons of raffle prizes. Bait is provided. Tourney starts at 8 and ends at 6.
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Old 06-20-2007, 08:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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do you have to pre-entry or can it be onsite entry. i was wondering when this thing was going to be. i hope to get out and catch some carp. oh yeah if your can post the rules or know the website where i can look.
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Here are the rules. Any questions feel free to pm me.

Carp Anglers Group Invitational
Guide for participants

1. Introduction & General Concept
The Carp Anglers Group Invitational (CAGI) was created in 2003 by David Moore, then CAG president. In June of 2003, 48 carp anglers fished in 5 venues across 5 states. In 2004, the CAGI second edition included 101 participants across 7 venues/states, institutionalizing the CAGI as a classic national carp angling event. In 2005, the 3rd edition included an impressive 185 participants across 10 venues/states.

The main concept is to have on the same day simultaneous fish-ins in multiple regional venues across North America, all following the same rules. This type of national event allows CAG members that could neither attend Austin (the ATC) or Chicago (the CCC) to participate in an “official CAG event”. A handicap system compensates for the different average sizes of carp being caught in the various waters, thus enabling national awards in addition to regional (per venue) awards. Young anglers are especially welcome, and can win junior awards. And everybody can test their special skills at the “Scooby Doo” challenge or the “Fly-Fishing” challenge.

In addition to being a friendly event with many participants across North America, the CAGI also offers a great opportunity to meet and fish with other anglers from the same region, to invite guests (non CAG members) to participate and learn about our favorite hobby, and to create curiosity and interest about what is happening in the other regions.

The CAGI is scheduled on the last Saturday of June as a ten (10) hours fish-in. In 2006, this will be June 24th (mark your calendar!). Regional prizes are handed out right after the event. CAGI official results are published on the Internet in July and in the NACA early September. The CAGI national prizes are handed out during the CAG annual meeting in Chicago end of September.

2 How to participate
To participate, you must be either a CAG member or be invited as a guest by a CAG member. CAG members may participate in any regional event, not necessarily the region where he/she resides.

CAG members must register to the event (and also register their guests). A Web-based registration process is available on the CAG Web site, and is the preferred registration mechanism. Otherwise, please send an e-mail to the CAGI coordinator.
CAGI Registration


Registration needs to occur before the event; most venues have limited space, and it will greatly simplify the life of the regional organizer to know the number of participants in advance. Still, last-minute on-site registration may be accepted as space allows. Regional organizers are CAG volunteers taking care of the logistics of organizing the regional CAGI event in an appropriate venue. Be nice with them, organizing such an event is a lot of work…

You can find the list of currently planned CAGI venues and corresponding regional organizers on the CAG Web site in the list of CAG fish-ins scheduled for end of June.
Fish-Ins


You can also contact the CAGI coordinator (Jerome Moisand), who will be happy to redirect you to the appropriate regional organizer and answer any question you might have about the CAGI. To contact Jerome, e-mail is the best way.

A fee of $10 per angler (CAG member or guest) will be requested. The fee can be prepaid when registering online (via Paypal), or it can be paid on-site to the regional organizer. CAG members are exempted from the $10 fee if they come with one guest or more (but guests have to pay their own fee). CAG members can come with multiple guests.

3 Regional awards
Regional awards are based on weights of carp captured in a given regional event.

Regional winners are determined right after the end of the event, and prizes are handed out to first, second, and third place in each category. Depending on regional venues, a social event of some sort (e.g. dinner, picnic, outing, etc) may complement the “award ceremony”.

If a guest (non CAG member) wins one of the regional awards (1st place), he/she will receive a free one-year CAG membership.

3.1 Regional “Total Weight” award
This award goes to the angler with the highest total weight of carp in the regional event.

Tiebreaker: largest carp, next largest, etc. If tie persists, time of capture of the largest carp (earliest wins).

3.2 Regional “Top 4” award
This award goes to the angler with the highest total weight of the four (4) biggest carp in the regional event.

Tiebreaker: largest carp, next largest, etc. If tie persists, time of capture of the largest carp (earliest wins).

3.3 Regional “Big Fish” award
This award goes to the angler with the largest carp in the regional event.

Tiebreaker: next largest carp, etc. If tie persists, time of capture of the largest carp (earliest wins).

4 National awards
National awards are based on the combined results of all regional events, using a handicap system to create a reasonable fairness between venues (not all waters have 30 or 40 pounders ready to be caught!). Special categories are defined for juniors (17 years-old or less), but they are eligible to all awards. National awards are reserved for CAG members and juniors. Adult guests are not eligible for national awards. National winners (first, second, and third place for each category) are determined by the CAGI coordinator after tallying the results of all regional events. National results will be published on the Internet (and communicated to regional organizers) as soon as possible in July. A “CAGI national awards ceremony” will occur during the annual CAG meeting in Chicago, after the Chicago Carp Classic (CCC). CAGI winners are kindly invited to come to Chicago, but if they can’t come, we’ll make sure they receive their prizes. CCC organizers gracefully agreed to offer a free participation to the CCC for CAGI national winners (first places only).

4.1 Handicap system
To qualify for national awards, a regional venue must fulfill two criteria:
• At least 8 anglers must have participated
• More carp than anglers must have been caught

If a venue qualifies, a venue handicap is calculated for each category (total weight, top-4, big fish), based on the carp caught during the event:
Venue Handicap = Nation-wide average weight / Venue average weight

Based on such venue handicaps, adjusted weights are then calculated as:
Adjusted weight = Actual weight * Venue Handicap

4.2 National “Total Weight” award – Junior and Senior
The award goes to the angler with the highest adjusted total weight of carp, across all venues.

Tiebreaker: largest carp (adjusted weight), next largest, etc. If tie persists, joint winners.

4.3 National “Top 4” award – Junior and Senior
The award goes to the angler with the highest adjusted total weight of the four (4) biggest carp, across all venues.

Tiebreaker: largest carp (adjusted weight), next largest, etc. If tie persists, joint winners.

4.4 National “Big Fish” award – Junior and Senior
The award goes to the angler with the largest carp (adjusted weight) across all venues.

Tiebreaker: next largest carp (adjusted weight), etc. If tie persists, joint winners.

4.5 National “Goofy picture” award
The award goes to the angler having submitted the goofiest picture. The picture may or may not include a fish, but has to include the goofy angler. Find your inner child deep inside, and get silly! A panel of judges (e.g. CAGI regional organizers, presided by the CAGI coordinator) will assess the “goofiness” of all submitted pictures, and will vote.

Pictures must stay in the realm of decency to be selected. Pictures must be sent to the CAGI coordinator by e-mail or postal mail and received no later than July 14th.

Tiebreaker: vote again. And again. Until we get a clear winner!

4.6 Special “Scooby Doo” challenge
If agreed upon with the regional organizer, participants may use a 3 feet “Scooby Doo” rod and try to catch a carp with it. Beware, this is quite challenging!

A Scooby Doo rod must be used in its original set-up, including the (thin and short!) monofilament line, the low quality reel, etc. Barbie rods, Minnie Mouse rods, Sponge Bob rods or other similar variations are also allowed. Regular carp bait and (safe) terminal rigs can be used; one may want to try with a Scooby Doo snack on a hair rig! )

This award goes to the angler with the largest carp (exact weight, no adjustment). To qualify for this award, a picture of the angler with the rod and the carp is required.

Tiebreaker: largest carp, next largest, etc. If tie persists, time of capture of the largest carp (earliest wins).

Note: carp caught for the Scooby Doo Challenge do count for the other awards.

4.7 Special “Fly-Fishing” Challenge *** NEW IN 2006 ***
If agreed upon with the regional organizer, participants may use a fly-fishing rod, line and reel and try to catch a carp with it. The fly has to be unscented and unbaited.

This award goes to the angler with the largest carp (exact weight, no adjustment) caught using fly-fishing gear. To qualify for this award, a picture of the angler with the rod and the carp is required.

Tiebreaker: largest carp, next largest, etc. If tie persists, time of capture of the largest carp (earliest wins).

Note: carp caught for the Fly-Fishing Challenge do count for the other awards.

5 Logistics & Schedule
The fish-in itself will last 10 hours. The typical schedule will be the following (this may be changed by the regional organizer, so ask to be sure! Some venues may choose to have a 10 hours night-fishing session, for example):
• Participants gather around 6AM; take some time to explore the venue
• Participants fees are collected by the regional organizer
• Participants scales are checked for accuracy against a calibration weight
o Not everybody needs to bring a precise scale, one for 2 or 3 anglers is usually enough
• The peg draw occurs around 7AM; here is the typical procedure:
o CAG members draw a peg first, before guests
o CAG members may pre-empt the peg on their right side or left side for one of their guests, if the peg has not been drawn yet
o Then remaining guests draw their peg
• Once the peg is known, participants get a scorecard, then can go to their peg right away and start plumbing or pre-baiting
• Fish-in from 8AM to 6PM (local time)
o From 8AM to 10AM, participants have to stay in their peg
o Starting from 10AM, participants are allowed to move to another (non occupied) peg, or to a swim where they don’t interfere with other anglers
o A participant has to stay at shouting distance from another participant
• Participants gather around 6:15PM to submit their scorecard with their results
o Please report it in any case, even if you didn’t catch anything
• A couple of group pictures of all participants are taken, plus pics of winners
• Regional results are computed by the regional organizer and double-checked by a participant/helper
• Regional awards ceremony occurs, possibly combined with a social event of some sort
• On Sunday, some regional organizers will have an informal fish-in (same venue or different venue) as an extra-activity for CAGI participants. Check on it!

6 More rules…
Regional organizers will be the judges if a participant breaks a rule. If this happens, the participant may be disqualified for regional and national awards, and we’ll let the regional organizer decide of the tree where the offender will be hung -- just kidding! ?

Every participant must follow the following set of rules:
• Two rods per angler
o An additional rod may be used for spodding
o Special rods used for the Scooby Doo or the Fly-Fishing challenge count towards the two-rod allotment
• One hook per line, no double or treble hook
• Foul hooked fish will not count
o Hook needs to be within one inch from the mouth area
• Fish may be sacked if strictly necessary
• The carp has to be weighed by a witness, and related information reported on the scorecard. Neighbor participant or stewards (e.g. regional organizer or helper) can act as witness.
• Only Cyprinus Carpio counts (common, mirror, leather, koi). Catching buffalo carp, crucian carp, grass carp, silver carp, old tires, dirty shoes, birds, dogs or other anglers does NOT count.
• Smartcast, plumbing, bait boats and any fancy equipment or baiting method is allowed.
• Fishing has to be performed from shore, not from boats or any other floatation device. Wading in the water is ok, but not swimming nor sinking!
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Old 06-20-2007, 09:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I can't belive I am fishing this damn tournament. I am only doing this because I promised you I would Bob. YOU HEAR ME BOB I AM FISHING YOUR DAMN CARP TOURNEY!!!!! Instead of jigging for lakers

On a serious note. Bob (one of the guys heading this up) loves fishing for Catfish and Carp and he is excellent at both. If you have any interest in those two species then it is worth going just to pick his brain for techniques. I have learned a ton about catfishing from him. I have tried my best to forget everything he says about carp as a sport fish
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Old 06-21-2007, 08:10 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Bob/Ben,
I'd give it a shot but the CWA is having a tournament up at Big Mac this weekend. Good luck to all of you carp guys.
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Bigfish -- What kind of bait is being provided? I assume we can still use our own?
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can i bring my bowtech
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Old 06-21-2007, 10:27 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Quote:
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can i bring my bowtech
I already asked -- they won't let me
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dang it o well any body whant any flies for the tourment i can make some custom carp ones
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c'mon you fly guys... buy some flys from this guy!
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