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Old 07-12-2005, 05:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I went out to Johnson Lake last night (Wadsworth and Bowles) and tried fishing for carp. I used corn and PowerBait corn...both on the bottom and under a bobber. NOTHING!!! They were all around jumping like crazy. Any advice for catching them?
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Old 07-12-2005, 05:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Try to make your own baits. I'm not sure if its out yet but I know Burkley is coming out with a powerbait type bait just for carp.

Also there are a lot of places on the internet that sell different carp baits.

Carp are very under-rated and I think its cool your fishing for them(Unless your going to kill them)

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Old 07-12-2005, 06:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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you do realize carp will eat almost anything

the real big carp will school shad and eat them
i have caught some real big one with cut bait and shrimp

the ones you see that are jumping are most likly spawning
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Doe baits and nightcrawlers have always been good for carp. Usually fished on the bottom but you might try a bobber if there near the top.
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For carp I always do better with malberries if there is a mallberry tree on the lake, but if not dough bait is great or nightcrawlers right before they turn all mushy from being in the sun all day.



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Old 07-12-2005, 09:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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the ones you see that are jumping are most likly spawning

Isn't it alittle late in the year for that? I know @ Barr they spawned a couple months ago, Wouldn't it be the same everywhere based on the water temps?

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Old 07-12-2005, 10:17 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Carp that you see jumping out of the water are not feeding. If you see carp thrashing about in the shallows and weedbeds, they are spawning and will not eat.

If they are doing neither of the above, you can probably catch them. One of the best carp baits I have found is homemade doughballs. Here is the recipe:

Take equal parts of flour and WHITE corn meal (not yellow). About half a cup each is about right. Mix them up together in a bowl until thoroughly blended. Then mix in water, not quite half a cup and stir until the mix has the consistency of soft biscuit dough. It should just barely stick to your hands when you try to roll some into a ball, but it should not be real gooey.

Roll the dough up into balls about the size of the end joint of your thumb, and drop them into a pan of boiling water for about 15 minutes. Move the pan to the sink and run cold water in it until you can handle the doughballs. Close them up in a jar or tupperware container and you are ready to go carp fishing.

To rig up, if you need a sinker to cast far enough, use the sliding egg kind of sinker so the carp can pull the line through it without feeling the weight of the sinker. No sinker at all is better if you can manage it. Attach a #2 Eagle Claw hook and form the doughbait in a ball around it to cover the lower 2/3 of the hook, including the point. You don't have to use a whole doughball at one time, just pinch off what you need.

When fishing, leave quite a bit of slack line out, don't tighten it up. When that slack line suddenly takes off and starts splitting the water like a knife, you have a carp, and the fight of a lifetime!

One thing: do NOT leave your rod unattended unless it is firmly secured in some way. More than one carp fisherman has turned his back for a moment to take a pee, only to have his rod and reel leap into the air and take off for parts unknown. (The same applies to catfish, of course.)

There are variations on the basic recipe -- some like to add sugar, vanilla, etc. Suit yourself, it won't hurt anything. My dad liked to add strawberry Jello to his. But when we fished side by side, I caught as many as he did using just the recipe above.

One last thing, carp fishing is not the place to be using ultralight tackle. Get a 15 or 20 pound carp on there and he will run you out of line without even slowing down.

Good hunting!
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I have pulled a lot of carp, even the big ones, with just live nightcrawlers.....
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I have pulled a lot of carp, even the big ones, with just live nightcrawlers.....
Yep, so have I. I look at the situation this way: if you are specifically targeting carp, and only carp, go with the doughballs. If you are out after anything that might bite, including perhaps a carp, that's when you go with the night crawlers.

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Old 07-12-2005, 10:57 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Here are a few links for carp i have bookmarked:

http://www.carpuniverse.com/frames_s.../recipes2.html
http://www.carp.com/
http://members.chello.nl/tmarapengopie/chemicals.htm
http://www.willontheweb.com/fishing/baitrecipes.html

Heres one I came up with and have got a few on:
Code:
Nuke Bait
  Submitted By Jay, Aurora, Colorado

  Ingredients:

    * 2 cups cornmeal
    * 1 1/2 cups flour
    * 1 cup oatmeal
    * 3 tsp maple syrup
    * 1/2 tsp salt
    * 1 pkg gelatin(strawberry,cherry,grape-Any flavor)
    * 1 tsp vanilla
    * 2 cups h2o
    * 1 bag of small flavored marshmallows 

  Preparation:

    1. Pour all ingredients except flour into pot, mix together
    2. On medium-low heat, stir all ingredient together till all marshmallows are gone
    3. Add 1/2 cup flour and stir till there is no flour left.
    4. Add another 1/2 cup flour and stir till there is no flour left
    5. And once again add another 1/2 cup flour and stir till there is no flour left
    6. Keep stiring till its like dough or till your wrist is broken, what ever comes first :-)
    7. Put in a old butter tub and place in fridge till ready to use
    8. When at the water, roll into good sized ball around hook.
Who wouldnt want to catch this:



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