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Old 04-21-2014, 11:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Yo, fellas. Quick question.

I have an Eagle Claw IM7 Aristocrat G2 "Heavy" weight spinning rod. It's 6'6 long and shows a capacity of 12-20 lb line and 3/8-3/4 oz lures.

This is one tough rod...

So, I'm setting this up as my second cat rod right now... My question is, what the hell is up with the "Lure" rating? I know it's a number giving the "optimum" weight for "optimum casting distance" but it seems like a pretty narrow window there.... Would it be possible to run a 3 oz slip sinker on it?

Currently, I have 30# braid spooled on the reel (4000 series Aristocrat Eagle) and it seems to handle a 1 oz sinker JUST fine... no excessive flex in the tip, no "bounce" effect.

If the "Lure" rating is 3/8 oz to 3/4 oz, (I still don't get how they come up with this number) then is it not supposed to be able to handle a 3 oz slip sinker?

I've got my terminal tackle set up, just wondering if it's smart (or not) to throw the 3 oz sinker on there... I DO NOT want to damage this rod, as it was a gift and one I like very much.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 04-21-2014, 11:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I generally look at rod lure-weight ratings as guidelines - they tell you what the ideal casting weights for the rod are. You can definitely go outside of those, but at the lighter end you'll have trouble getting a lot of range and at the heavy end you may find that the rod is actually overpowered by the weight on a typical cast, and thus doesn't have the same range that a rod that is rated for heavier weights might have.

In your case, you could probably lob-cast a heavier weight, but I'm not sure I'd go with a faster (traditional) cast with a 3 oz weight.
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Well, I went ahead and rigged it up... Its borderline but, as you said, Doc, it'll work for lob casting quite well. My big King Kat rod handles that 3 oz perfectly. Like it was built for it. The rod loads up just right and it sails like a flippin catapult.

Guess I should buy another one of those when I have disposable income.... Save my Eagle Claw rod for something else.

It will work though.. Probably solid for 20-40 yards.
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Hey Owen, I have here an Eagle Claw Cat Claw casting rod that has never been used. It is a discontinued model that I've had for a few years, promised it to another member but he has disappeared so if you want it come and get it!!! It is 8', Med heavy, line wt. 12-30 lbs, lure wt. 1 1/2- 2 1/2. I prolly even have an old casting reel around here somewhere to go with it. If you're interested let me know!
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I'm surprised your cat rod can cast 3 oz like a catapult
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Old 04-22-2014, 07:22 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Owen..seriously..lighten up on your rig. You can catch the biggest cats in Colorado on ten to twelve pound test and you'll never need a 1, 2, or 3 ounce weight. When I do bottom fish for cats..I don't use any weight at all. Other than fishing a tail race when they're releasing a lot of water...I just wouldn't see the need. I think you'll catch more fish...fish closer to shore..ten to twenty feet..no need to be launching bait for catfish.
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Owen..seriously..lighten up on your rig. You can catch the biggest cats in Colorado on ten to twelve pound test and you'll never need a 1, 2, or 3 ounce weight. When I do bottom fish for cats..I don't use any weight at all. Other than fishing a tail race when they're releasing a lot of water...I just wouldn't see the need. I think you'll catch more fish...fish closer to shore..ten to twenty feet..no need to be launching bait for catfish.
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And when i do try for carp i always go weightless... same with Catfishing.. Weightless... You typically dont need to cast as far as most people think.. so I am able to do without weight and still manage a few... Atleast cats.... carp are a whole diff. story.
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Best bottom rig. Adjust weight for personal preference.

Adjust leader for length.

More sensitive to bites.
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Owen..seriously..lighten up on your rig. You can catch the biggest cats in Colorado on ten to twelve pound test and you'll never need a 1, 2, or 3 ounce weight. When I do bottom fish for cats..I don't use any weight at all. Other than fishing a tail race when they're releasing a lot of water...I just wouldn't see the need. I think you'll catch more fish...fish closer to shore..ten to twenty feet..no need to be launching bait for catfish.
I think Owen may be getting set up for Tennessee cats! They get seriously big there!
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