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12-25-2008 11:07 AM
Re: Which fly for beginner?

if ya can take a couple of classes. Its also a good way to get out the house and meet other addicts. There has to be a F.F.A. (Fly Fishers annonymos ) meetin place close by ! Have fun.
12-19-2008 06:36 PM
Re: Which fly for beginner?

wooly bugger
12-19-2008 09:58 AM
Re: Which fly for beginner?

Go ahead take a beginner lesson and get familiar with tying basics will go a loooong way.
Have fun.
12-16-2008 07:39 AM
Re: Which fly for beginner?

Originally Posted by slowdown
If you try to go to 18's and 20's right out of the box, you're going to get frustrated.
I think that's where I went wrong with my first attempt at tying flies several years ago. Those little bastages are tough!
12-13-2008 09:24 PM
silicone boy
Re: Which fly for beginner?

If you have done a lot of buggers, you have all the skills needed to proceed to the RS2. Start at 18 or 20 and work your way down to #30 . BTW, I think the fly tying forum "decided" a while back that it doesn't matter if there are 2 split tails, or 10 in a bunch. fish can't count. Don't tell that to Mr Chung though
12-11-2008 11:54 PM
Re: Which fly for beginner?

I second Fishingal's wooly worm suggestion. It involves several fundamental tieing skills in an unforgiving way. I've fished them dry and wet in all kinds of variations. Anymore for me, simplifying is good!
12-11-2008 07:09 PM
Re: Which fly for beginner?

Bone pile? Pick up that straight razor you use for cuttin your rocks and cut the meterial off and start over. my first 2 dozen flies were all tied on the same hook.
12-11-2008 07:02 PM
Re: Which fly for beginner?

I tied a basic gold rib hares ear nymph, no bead, and in a number 12 for my first bug, it was in April this year. I kept tying it until I thought it looked like the one I bought at SW for reference. Then I added the bead head and tied them down to a number 18. I kept tying them until they were good, and the bad ones went to the bone pile. I used John van Vliet's book and CD called the art of Fly Tying. Charlie's book is better, but I learned many of the basic techniques from repetition. My bugs aren't perfect by any means, but I can tie most of what I need, even real small stuff. Guess my point is pick a pattern you'll use, but keep it simple at first. Repeat the pattern until you have it nailed (while your technique gets better and better).

Oh, and he addiction is worse than straight potato gas and copenhagen long cut
12-11-2008 12:51 PM
Re: Which fly for beginner?

First fly I ever tied was a Red Butt Woolly Worm. Red yarn Tail, black chenille body. Grizzly hen hackle. Bead or no bead, this will still catch you fish. Doesn't look like anything, but enough like anything. Gets you used to tying in materials, wrapping thread, tailing, wrapping hackle, tying off.

No fiddly bits like wings, shellback, legs, or any of that stuff. Don't have to be fancy with proportions either.

Best part of Charlie's book is the fact that he starts you on easy, familiar stuff that catches fish. Even if you only tie up a pile of brassies and RS-II's and stop there, you'll still catch fish on the flies you tied. It's great because it introduces you to important things like proportions, handling materials, controlling your thread tension, etc. These are critical steps everybody needs to know.

I still recommend for you woolly enthusiasts to take a look at Gary Soucie's Woolly Wisdom, which is a book with something like 400 patterns for woolly worms, buggers, bivisibles (a British 'dry' version of a woolly worm), and a few things that seem only vaguely woolly. If your wife has already gotten you a copy of Charlie's book for say, b-day or anniversary, ask for Woolly... it's funny reading and has just about every woolly out there in the book. Given, it's not the Complete Orvis Book of Fly Tying, but sure is darn cool.
12-11-2008 10:13 AM
Re: Which fly for beginner?

Once you get Charlies book, you wont ask that question. Make sure to read the book, dont just go to the pictures of flies. There is a method to the madness and it is spelled out...WELL in the begining of the book. He has you start with a brassie for a reason, then he moves you on to the RS2, then to a pheasant tail etc. Each time he takes techniques from the previous fly and adds to it.

I highly recommend his book. More importantly, I highly recommend going about tying at his pace in his order. I had tied for two years when I got his book. It made me re-think a ton of what and why I do things. I went back and re-tied all my brassies and midges. I did it with most of my RS2's as well. You cant beat the process the book takes you through. It has truly made me a much better tier....

P.S. You better be in this fly swap!!!
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