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I was just hanging around the office tonight with too much time on my hands, always a dangerous thing. I was playing around with some mylar tubing, something I don't use very much. I came up with this:




It's about 4 inches long and jointed!



I was trying for a baby rainbow, but I think it looks more like a neon tetra. I know this is blasphemy, especially for those of you dry flyers. Usually I'm a nympher and the most sinful thing I do is throw a bugger. I've been known to throw an rare Rapala on a flyrod though, and I wanted make my sins better by tying my own. I think I'm going to burn in flyfisher's hell for this!
 

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Dude, sweet. I dig and hope to hear about how it swims... and any improvements you might consider... I would love to tie up something like that. I have had a simmilar concept on my mind for a while (swimbaitesque).
 

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I'll put up some pics soon that will give a better idea of how I tied it. I know it won't swim in a rhythmic, wobbly fashion like a real Rapala. The front section is weighted so it will have some action like an articulated leech. I think it's a good thing that it won't swim as well as a Rapala. I think it will flop more like a wounded minnow in between strips, making it an enticing target for those big browns. Maybe I could put a lip on it. I have been playing with a mylar spoonfly similar to the saltwater redfish flies, and it has a killer wobbly action. I'll post a pic of it tomorrow. Obviously, I'm getting tired of tying #26 midges all the time ;D
 

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Here are a couple of other abominations I made in the past week. They are spoonflies, which are used a lot in saltwater fishing. The spoon is made out of mylar tubing tied to a curvy hook and impregnated with epoxy. They have a killer action, very much like a wounded fish. You'll have to excuse me for the rough appearance. These are the early versions.

A baby rainbow:




Top view showing how the hook is oriented relative to the mylar spoon:



A shad variant with a chamois tail, which really flitters when stripped:



I first encountered the chamois streamer on the North Platte, when a guide showed me a pattern called the epoxy minnow, orignally a bass pattern but the big browns didn't seem to care!
 

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All good stuff. Post up results pics!

It's interesting that, before I started flyfishing a few years ago, I had a little 2.5 to 3" homemade soft plastic jerkbait that I made from the tail end of a Sluggo and a long shank#6 to 10 size hook, and used to cast with an ultralight spinning outfit. First time I ever used it, just twitching, letting it rest/slowly sink, then twitching it again, etc. (just like I had been fishing for bass and pike with regular 6" Sluggos), I had smaller but keeper sized rainbows shooting right out of the water. Couldn't cast it very far (but far enough for most applications) and had trouble with hook-ups due to too much rubber taking up hook gape space, but eventually added a trailer hook which helped. That erratic, twitch and pause with a slow sink seems to be a strike stimulator. Anyway, those are good-looking ties you have there. Good luck.
 

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Knute, you bring up a good point that got me into making what most would consider "lures". At the beginning of the last century, the forerunners of today's lures were actually casted with flyrods. Spinning gear had not appeared on the scene yet, and the baitcaster rods of the day could not deal with such lightweight lures. If you do an eBay search for "flyfishing lures" you will see an assortment of swimbaits, spinners (I saw one much like the yellow Panther Martin with red dots) and plugs from the early 1900's all meant to be cast by a long rod.
 

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Anybody try the epoxy 'spoon flies' in Fly Tyer - you use Silly Putty to create the mold the epoxy goes in... crazy.. like the idea of 'em though. Silicone boy, you rock!
 

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Silicon Boy those rock...I know some wipers that would love that first one...

Keep up the great work!...
 

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fishingal said:
Anybody try the epoxy 'spoon flies' in Fly Tyer - you use Silly Putty to create the mold the epoxy goes in... crazy.. like the idea of 'em though. Silicone boy, you rock!

That article got me started. I haven't tried it yet because I can't find silly putty. It looks like an easier way to make spoon flies.
 

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I got to try my swimbait "fly" in a friend's goldfish pond tonight--not fishing, just trying it out to see the action. Well, it swims like a dead fish, or one really trying to die. No predictable side to side wobble like a Rapala, just random motion during and between strips. Sometimes it will swirl right, sometimes left, and often flops on its side in no particular order. In other words, PERFECT! Just like a dying baby trout :D. Sometimes I think traditional swimbaits swim too much like a healthy fish, and I think a predator would prefer a cripple. Can't wait to use it in the wild.
 

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one tip for ya ------ make the tails thick and short, more material and less length. trust me, they just work better
 
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