Some of them put a hell of a bend in my 8wt! Most of the bass were caught on the 8 trying out my new Rio Power Fly line. I haven't tested it out on big poppers yet, but it casts streamers really well. The only problem is the back section of the line is a bit stiff in these colder temps and tends to coils some. Not hard to cast, it just causes more tangles.Great crappies man! I bet those buckets put a good bend in the 4wt? That's a big ol' shiner!