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i was telling the guys about your fuel system being gumed up so mike dug this up. i thought you might be intrested in it

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Date: Friday, March 25, 2011, 10:02 PM

Some interesting stuff on ethanol in fuel. Mid grade has about 1/2 or the cheap stuff.
Looks like premium has no ethanol in Colorado.


here is the article and link...

Ethanol Blending Is Spreading Into All Unleaded Gasoline In The U.S.
Ethanol is being blended into all of the gasoline across the country because of a new federal Renewable Fuels Standard (RFS) promulgated by a new federal law, the Energy Independence and Security of 2007 (EISA 2007). If you take the time to read this 310 page act, you will notice something peculiar. The portion that governs the RFS is only a minor part of the act, Sections 201 - 248, and most of these sections deal with E85 (85% ethanol / 15% gasoline), flex-fuel cars (which are the only cars that can use E85) and bio-diesel. No ethanol blending ratios are required by the act and it is NOT a mandatory E10 law. The act stipulates that the RFS is to be implemented by the EPA.

So why is ethanol showing up in all grades of gasoline everywhere as E10 which is 10% ethanol / 90% gasoline? To understand the new reality of ethanol blending in the US, click here.

The EPA has been petitioned to raise the blending limit of 10% ethanol for non Flex-Fuel cars to 15% by a coalition of ethanol lobbies because of the unintended consequences of the federal RFS mandate, EISA 2007 which was supposed to be an E85 corporate welfare law. Since E85 is going nowhere, the ethanol industry must now find a place to put all of the ethanol that is hard coded into EISA 2007. Instead of facing the fact that the law is grossly defective, they want to force you to take more ethanol in your gasoline by raising the blending limit to 15%.

The comment period is closed, Total number of comments to date: 4730 which can be seen here.

List of pertinant E15 waiver comments.

10/13/2010 Here is the first part of the E15 Waiver only for 2007 and newer cars.

Pretty much D.O.A. According to the E15 waiver comment by the National Petrochemical & Refiners Association the EPA does not have the legal authority to grant a partial waiver, it can only grant a waiver for all cars or deny the waiver. Their comment says, "EPA raises in the Waiver Notice the possibility of conditionally approving the use of E15 or lesser mid-level blends only for a limited subset of vehicles. 74 Fed. Reg. 18,230. If EPA were to develop such a “bifurcated fuels” program pursuant to a partial E15 waiver, the Agency would be at risk for a CAA section 307 judicial challenge alleging that the Agency’s interpretation of section 211(f)(4) is unreasonable and exceeds the Agency’s authority."

Since the EPA E15 waiver is permissive, that is it isn't a mandatory E15 law, nobody has to make E15 and the gasoline producers were pretty much unanimous in their E15 waiver comments that they weren't going to make a product with such high liability for damage without the government passing liability legislation holding them and their dealers harmless. In addition there are no new non flex-fuel cars built from 2007 until today that have warranty coverage for E15, so who is going to pump a product into their gas tank that will void their warranty, cut their mileage and costs more than E10 does, because today ethanol is more expensive than gasoline ... once again!


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Help Keep Ethanol Free Mogas Available By Signing Our Petition To EPA Administrator Jackson

If you are looking for ethanol free mogas you have probably heard of the web site www.pure-gas.org, which lists locations around the country to find sources. The owner of the site has started a petition to send to EPA administrator Lisa Jackson, who actually has the authority to make sure ethanol free premium unleaded gasoline is available. You can sign the petition and add your comment at: pure-gas.org petition Please sign the petition if you need ethanol free mogas for your flying. If nothing is done by the EPA or state governments in the next year all gasoline in the U.S. will be E10 because of the unintended consequences of the federal RFS mandate in EISA 2007, which ironically is not a mandatory E10 law, but is having that effect.
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Prohibit Ethanol Blending In All Premium Unleaded Gasoline
Every mandatory E10 state has exemptions to their blending law, because there are a number of piston engine applications that should not, and some that cannot, use ethanol blended gasoline. Unfortunately the exemptions are not uniform. They vary from only one exemption in Washington, aircraft, to a universal exemption of premium unleaded in Missouri. All states exempt aircraft usage, but most states like Oregon and Washington make it almost impossible to get unblended gasoline. Oregon is the only state that allows for unblended regular and premium gasoline for the exemptions, and then makes it almost impossible to get any unblended gasoline. All other mandatory ethanol states just allow clear premium unleaded gasoline for the exempted classes.

The following piston engine applications should not use ethanol blended gasoline:

Any 2 cycle engine used in tools, watercraft, snowmobiles, etc., or small 4 cycle engines.
Any engines used in an emergency stationary engine application like a generator or a pump, especially in a humid climate.
All watercraft. Ethanol blended gasoline should never be used in a marine environment.
Antique and classic cars and classic motorcycles.
All aircraft.
All of these users must be able to get ethanol free (E0) gasoline. If you live in a state without a mandatory ethanol blending law, you have no exemptions, ethanol will eventually be blended into all of your unleaded gasoline and there is no requirement in EISA 2007 to label gas pumps with ethanol content.
If ethanol is the holy grail of clean air and energy independence why does it require government mandate with corporate welfare payments? What is it about ethanol that it can't compete in a free market. For the past 20 years the ethanol industry has gotten corporate welfare from state and federal subsidies and tax credits and it is still not a profitable business without your tax dollars.

By the end of 2012 the unintended consequences of EISA 2007 will take every drop of gasoline in the country E10 causing serious economic damage to the marine and aviation industry and endangering public safety users who rely on portable tools. Your only option is to contact your state legislators and tell them how E10 is affecting you and ask them to pass legislation to prohibit the blending of ethanol into premium unleaded gasoline intended for sale anywhere in your state.

If you need information with references to frame arguments against ethanol blending please look at the Talking Points section of this site.


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response from byrons buddy...


I finally got around to replacing the fuel supply line from tank to the rear bulkhead. I don’t know how it was even transferring fuel. It was so cracked, gooey, and just generally falling apart. It appears the fill hose is still ok. Probably because the fuel doesn’t remain in contact with it all the time. The pick up tube in the tank looks ok.



I had to replace the fuel level sensor. The “float” was no longer floating probably due to the alcohol? I think this could have serious consequences in carbureted engines that have floats made out of a similar material? My bulb still gets hard so mine must still be floating?



I now only use premium fuel in it in hopes that it doesn’t have alcohol in it.



But how does one know?



This ridiculous farm subsidy has to go! It’s totally absurd, this program that takes a food source and converts it to fuel. It takes more energy to create it than what you get out of it!



Totally dumb!

Geo.
 

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The Iowa democratic caucus can't be won by a candidate who doesn't voice support for ethanol subsidies by the federal government. So ethanol, as inefficient and potentially troublesome as it is, isn't going away...
 

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[The Iowa democratic caucus can't be won by a candidate who doesn't voice support for ethanol subsidies by the federal government. So ethanol, as inefficient and potentially troublesome as it is, isn't going away...
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that is the trouble with the government, they pay out way too many subsidies for things that harm more than help. the corn growing states can be easly out voted if the rest of the country will wake up
 

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I just spent $800 getting new carb kits, hoses, etc. installed on my outboard V6 because ethanol in the gas gunked everything up. In addition, I believe that I will need to have the gas tank in the boat replaced within a year, ethanol eats up the tanks......

At some point, ethanol content will reach 12 to 15 percent, which will really cause problems. When I bought my boat, i specifically asked which grade of fuel I should run, and I was told that regular unleaded would be best. I probably sould have dione a little reseach to find out which gas has the least amount of ethanol in it....

I feel for the growers, heck, many of my friends are farmers that can earn more cash with the higher demand for corn that ethanol production brings.

Tough one

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if you can find a place that sells it, buy offroad fuel...no ethanol...we get it delivered to use in our small equipment...and also use it in the boat.
beadheadred said:
I just spent $800 getting new carb kits, hoses, etc. installed on my outboard V6 because ethanol in the gas gunked everything up. In addition, I believe that I will need to have the gas tank in the boat replaced within a year, ethanol eats up the tanks......

At some point, ethanol content will reach 12 to 15 percent, which will really cause problems. When I bought my boat, i specifically asked which grade of fuel I should run, and I was told that regular unleaded would be best. I probably sould have dione a little reseach to find out which gas has the least amount of ethanol in it....

I feel for the growers, heck, many of my friends are farmers that can earn more cash with the higher demand for corn that ethanol production brings.

Tough one

BHR
 

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Basically 100% coverage of 10% ethanol in Colorado now. I have been running pump gas(10% ethanol) in all of my many vintage snowmobiles(1966-1985) 2-strokes for years and have never had a problem. Ethanol actually cuts thru gunk- I imagine some of the problem is dirty, non-maintained fuel systems that needed an Ethanol cleaning long ago-
 
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