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so maybe it's an iowa thing but there is not much (wiper aside) that beats a carp on a fly rod, i remmember back when i was knee high to a duck that barr lake had a healthy population of carp, i know it needs to be hot for carp...just dreaming a head a few months. any one have any ya or nay on Barr lake, carp in general or other good carp spots, thanks.
 

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I know common carp hit flies, but what about grass carp? Purdy mesa reservoir has a bunch of huge grass carp. I would think that would be a blast!
 

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so maybe it's an iowa thing but there is not much (wiper aside) that beats a carp on a fly rod, i remmember back when i was knee high to a duck that barr lake had a healthy population of carp, i know it needs to be hot for carp...just dreaming a head a few months. any one have any ya or nay on Barr lake, carp in general or other good carp spots, thanks.
Most gravel pit ponds along the front range have carp. They are fun to catch on a fly. Some of my favorite carp flies have been: Hares ear, brown wooley buggers, halfback, mohair leech, and crawfish imitations.
 

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I dont know if Colorado has Mulberry trees here but if you want to hook into some good size carp, find a mulberry tree and put on a mulberry patterned fly (sure you can find a pattern they are popular carp flies). When casting the fly try to hit the fish if you can see them. The plop sound attracts the carp and they like to hit the fly on the drop.
 

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I dont know if Colorado has Mulberry trees here but if you want to hook into some good size carp, find a mulberry tree and put on a mulberry patterned fly (sure you can find a pattern they are popular carp flies).  When casting the fly try to hit the fish if you can see them.  The plop sound attracts the carp and they like to hit the fly on the drop. 
Also when cottonwood tree's are dropping cotton, carp like to slurp that.
I tie a cdc cottonwood seed fly, and love fishing to the cottonwood slurpers!! ;D
 

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In Denver/Thorton area off of 74th ave. a little west of broadway (Mickey's Steakhouse), along the bike trail, there is a small pond that I have seen just loaded with huge carp feeding on the top. This was a few years back, but I am sure they are still there.
 

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Has any of y'all fly fishing soldiers considered grass carp? I see giant ones at Teller Lake in Boulder county. Almost prehistoric looking fish. I don't know how and what pattern you guys might wanna try, but I seen em chomping vegitation and gulping stuff at the surface during the beginning of summer.
 

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There are plenty of carp in Teller Lake thats for sure...and i hate em. I used to fish that lake when i was a kid, it was crystal clear back then and had some great weed beds that held tons of bluegills and bass. we used to catch them by the hundreds on our flyrods in the summer. now the carp have overpopulated the lake (as they have in a lot of lakes in Boulder County it seems) and its just another mudhole with no weed growth or other natural cover other than some christmas trees that are sunk near the dock. what a shame. im not sone for killing things needlessly, but i dont get too upset when i see a dead carp on shore that someone caught left there. they are destructive and have ruined a lot of lakes i know would otherwise be good fisheries.
 

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sorry about that last rant, i just dont like carp. however too stick to the subject of catching them though a good all around carp pattern is a size 10 scud--cast it a few feet in front of them and just inch it along the bottom. later in the summer a hopper pattern works well too, they will take it off the top if they see it...
 

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Im no biologist, but ive noticed once carp have been planted (yes..they planted grass carp here in Boulder County or were introduced from other surrounding bodies of water during run off) smaller lakes tends to lose all of thier vegetation as it is uprooted or eaten by the carp. as with Teller Lake, the surface of the lake's bottom became muddy and barren. ive noticed this too to a lot of the small gravel pit lakes at Sawhill Ponds that i see carp in nowdays too. i could be wrong---im no expert and can only go by what ive seen over the course of a few years---but im certain the impact they have on a lake's ecosystem can be negative. im sure they effect the spawing of other fish species by rooting up beds and destroying eggs and spawing habitat. it also seems like you rarely see just one carp---its usually many many of them in a lake. i think the grass carp that are planted are hybrids, but im certain the others are not as you see them by the hundreds in the summertime. either way i still dont like them....especially when im catfishing and that big "cat" turnes out to be a carp...
 

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Grass carp are only introduced in the most extreme circumstances. (or at least should only be introduced during these circumstances.) I believe they can't reproduce, but am not sure. I know they have helped out purdy mesa some, but they are not the solution to the problem.
Now the common carp can be a problem sometimes, and I've seen it happen with one lake. (bullheads also do this). They overpopulate, and as rottal said, dig into the bottom and make the water murky. Bullheads do this too.
Grass carp...anyone know how to tie a tomato pattern :p
 

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Yeah grass carp are sterile or suppose to be. They use to put them in lakes that had alot of vegitation, the only problem with that is they are very effective at getting rid of the vegitation which like rottal pointed out can cause issues with the other species of the lake that live there.
A good example is the two lakes left here in the Springs, Quail lake has a ton of weedbeds and is very clear water with no carp. Pikeview has no weeds at all and is murky and has a ton of carp, I have yet to get a snag at pikeview if there is structure in that pond I cant find it.
 
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