Just got off the phone with a woman up at budget tackle in Granby and she said 9:30 am 12/-7/2005 -20 F snowmobiles already on shadow mtn. didn't ask about grand lake but she did say that granby has a slight skim on some of the coves and arapahoe bay theres a small skim which only started yesterday. she also said willow creek went last sat. stay safe and tight lines fellas and ladies!!!