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Anyone here had any luck with Tiger Muskies?

I fish Quincy all summer for bass and Tigers. Bass are pretty easy to figure out, but the Tigers are a mystery to me ??? I thought since I was good Pike fisherman that would carry over? They are definately different fish! In three seasons I have one 28" Tiger to show for :( I have had about half a dozen big fish follow baits right up to me, but they never strike?

I have plenty of Pike/Musky specific tackle, so I can't buy my way out of this one? Anyone else struggled to catch them?
 
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I go to Quincy all the time and generally focus on bass or trout. I haven't heard anything, but I wonder how many tigers are left in there...
 

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If you are fishing from a boat use the figure 8 motion for 5-10 rotations when you hit the boat side. I know it sounds stupid but I have done well with fish that follow. It does not work all of the time but will give you more of chance when they hit the boat. I think that musky don't car about your boat they only care about the amount of energy it will take to hunt the bait. You will understand when this works. ;D. Add flash to your 7-9" stick baits by removeing the last trebile hook and adding a blade to the end. Slows down the bait, but you may need to adjust the lure. Hope that helps.... Good Luck!!!
 

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Here are some other things I do. I cut all hooks off of my stick baits and install higher quality hooks with a bigger splitrings. This reduces the chance of throwing the bait. Also I use a twis-ties and attach a weight (1/4-1/2oz) to a musky killer inline bait which sinks it fast and gets it deep. Weedless trick, drill a hole into the tip of the lip of your diving bait, attach a split ring, and tie your line. The weeds tend to push over the bait nad not hit the bottom lip. Last, if the water you are fishing allows night fishing, this is the best time to fish for musky. In summer this can provide good fishing. Break in your lures, get them dirty, and try again. I have the best luck on the oldest, most beat up lures in my box. Every time I try a new lure, NOTHING! Hope this helps. Good Luck!!!
 

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You might want to check out http://www.coloradomuskies.com/ they're website doesnt get much attention but if you post a question on their board just keep checking back it usually gets answered. They also are very friendly and will invite you to one of their meetings, which I'm sure you can network yourself a little and find out a bunch of information.
 

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I have been reading up on some techniques for musky and from what i have found, they are more selective then pike. One thing i found interesting is that when you see a fish follow, most people slow down the bait hoping the fish will hit it. Every where i read says that you should speed up the bait slightly. This immitates a bait fish trying to escape and the tiger usually hits. Also, platics are a good choice too when the water is cooler. I have a few lindy tiger tubes and they are huge tube baits. Fish them slow like your fishing for bass and they say if the fish follows, figure 8 at the boat and then after a few rounds when the bait is farthest away from you, let it drop. Sometimes they will follow it down and take it. I am also gonna try a spinner bait i got called a Grim Reaper Wildcat Spinnerbait. I have never caught one myself, so it seems somewhat hypicritical, but i am on a quest to catch all of colorado's fish. About 1/2 way there. My brother and I study up on a fish and then go after it. However i have caught some pike.
 

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I have had a couple smaller tiger muskies on at harvey gap before, and I hooked them on a plastic jerkbait like a zoom superfluke.
Here is my theory on it, and keep in mind this is just a theory.
Have two rods ready, one to call a musky in and the other to make him strike. Use a spinnerbait to call the musky in, or another lure you have had good success with. Once you get a good idea about where he is following it in from, cast a zoom super fluke out there, and fish it back towards you. If this doesn't get the fish for you, maybe once you find one a flyrod will work. Keep in mind this is a theory but I would bet it works!!!
 

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One thing i found interesting is that when you see a fish follow, most people slow down the bait hoping the fish will hit it.  Every where i read says that you should speed up the bait slightly.
This doesnt pertain to muskies but I wonder if it would...I have had luck...one of my friends who moved here from Missouri came up with it...up at Spinney with large Rapalas (13's in Rainbow Trout Flavor)...we had luck early and late casting to the heavy swirls that show up sometimes by casting out...letting it sit for a second...giving it a twitch...and then get this reeling as fast as you could...it didnt work always but did work now and then...with todays high speed spinning reels you can get them moving pretty good...but they can still swim it down and hit like a freight train...make sure you have your drag set loose...crazy tactic...wonder if it would work for other speed fish like muskies and wiper?...
 

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Neal I am by no means an expert on Quincy, but what I have read (in barry reynolds first book 'pike on the fly') is the predominant forage fish in Quincy is the spottailed shiner. He said he made a few modifications to a Dan Blanton tarpon pattern and had success. I think the best times to fish this lake would be in june, july,and august. When water temps are in the upper sixties, they will be feeding in the shallows. Tigers are more of a warm water fish than pike.

He has some real good info in that first book mostly pertaining to Quincy and I would reccomend buying it. I don't have a fly rod yet so I just read his books and try to translate it into how conventional tackle would work. Barry is from Colorado so alot of the info in his book is relevant to our local waters and sometimes he does local seminares. There is a whole chapter on tiger fishing in that first book of his.
 

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I fish alot of big soft plastics also. Mostly Reapers, Fin S Fish and Sluggo's.

I used to carry two baitcasters with me when fishing for Pike or Tigers. Baitcasters are great for plugs and spinnerbaits, but are not ideal for weightless soft plastics. Now I carry one 7' bastcaster and one 7' MH spinning rod and Stradic 4000. I have 250 yards of 30lb Ripcord SI and that allows you to throw weightless platics a long ways, and be able to handle anything big if you get lucky!
 
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