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I know, I know, I should only be throwing swimbaits, but sometimes, just sometimes, I can call a bass up on the big stuff but they won't eat. Last year I had fair success using a wacky-rigged Senko as a follow up bait and I'm interested in revising that this year. The problem I had last year was that a lot of the bass that needed "assistance" would retreat to cover after failing to eat the big bait and the wacky rigged Senko was tough to get in and out of cover without snagging. So what I'm interested in is a weedless hook for wacky rigging.

Here's the selection I've found - what would you bass gurus out there recommend?
- Gamakatsu weedless wide gap
- Owner weedless wacky hook

My other option, seeing as the above hooks are running at about $1/ea., is to make my own out of 1 or 1/0 dropshot hooks. I was thinking that if I took the weedguard from a pig 'n' jig, clipped off a strand, doubled it over, and then whip-finished it on a hook, that would work. Would it?

BTW, for you Fishful Thinker fans out there, here's an interesting side note. If you've ever watched Chad near bushes or docks, he can skip a wacky-rigged bait something wicked (that's where I learned the technique). Yesterday I spent my lunch hour trying to skip medium sized swimbaits (6" stuff) and...it worked! The technique does need some refinement, and skipping with a baitcaster is different than with a spinning reel (I had one /birds nest that had all of the blackbirds for a mile around coming in to take lessons, but I think it'll prove to be very interesting later this spring/summer.
 

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Gamakatsu wwg. Works better keeping salad off your hook that staying free of wood but thas what I use. Use the largest size you can cause they can gut the bait.
 

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i personally hate the weedless hooks. i could not get a decent hookset on them with flouro and a spinning rod. i think i saw denverbassman using braid (possibly with a flouro leader) to get a good hookset with the weedless hooks. i stopped using them and rigged it slightly differently (go through the worm twice). not completely weedless, but a better option for me. I imagine if you are throwing a heavier senko on a baitcaster, you wouldn't have to worry about the hookset. might also try the weedless worm. i also missed plenty of hooksets with these, but they obviously work for some people. maybe i could have used a smaller hook. i don't know.

http://www.kickerfishbait.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=42&osCsid=5985c4cf52216c4f9c357d9c9998463d

http://www.kickerfishbait.com/shop/extra_info_pages.php?pages_id=4
 

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Mr. Eagle-

i know you are a very astute angler, a gentleman, and a stand up fella.

but with regards, i think a Texas rig is a poor follow up presentation, as it is NO WHERE as good a drop bait as a wacky Senko. i have moderate experience with both... the T rig is better as a method of covering water...me thinks!

Dr., why dont you tie up some hooks, i am very interested in your results!

(try Owner Mosquito hooks) ;)

and yes, Chad is a stud angler. but then, so are you!

Shaun
 

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Walking Eagle said:
Weeds and brush are what the Texas rig was designed for. The wacky rig is not the only setup that catches fish.
Very true, WE, very true. Sometimes I go with a Texas rig, or at least a Texas-rigged tube or Senko, but I like having options to mix it up - I figure anyone can skip a Texas-rigged lure under a bush but the bass might not have seen a wacky-rigged worm, or, if I can get some more practice, a big swimbait!

Swimbait (the CF member, not the lure), I think you're also right - a wacky rigged worm has a more alluring fall than a Texas-rigged one, at least in my modest experience.

I'll post up some pictures of the modified Owners (I think they are Mosquitos) once I test them out.
 

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I basically T-rig the octopus hook in the middle of the worm. It chews the worm up a little but is nice and weedless and there's np weedguard to affect the hookset.
 

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I go back home to North Carolina a couple of times a year and do alot of pitching docks at Smith Mountain Res. with Senko's. Those Owner Misquito hooks that Simbait mentioned have never failed me!
 

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Gamakatsu wwg. Works better keeping salad off your hook that staying free of wood but thas what I use. Use the largest size you can cause they can gut the bait.
This...

One other thing I might mention... fishing them on a good worm hook is more weedless and SO much more fun due to the hookset, IMO... I do love the wacky though and tend to catch a lot of fish with em... Def love the Gami wwg.
 

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MHO,
Gamakatsu = less hang ups and more misses

Owner = more hang ups but waayyyy better hook up ratio

And this is coming from 3 or 4 months a year for the past... Well forever throwing nothing but senkos all spring and early summer.

And not for nothin but I can skip a frog a good 10ft + with a BC. A senko on a spin rod??? Gees I don't know 20ft??? +??? Xtra fast tip and a full spool is key
 
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