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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AjOgy1NMa4drvGxCk_.0.ElDubYF?slug=cr-winnersandlosers110710

Maybe the hooded sweatshirt was hanging over Josh McDaniels’ eyes the entire 2009 season. Or maybe he never took the time to watch all of the Denver Broncos’ game film from 2008. Or maybe Mike Holmgen and the Cleveland Browns’ new front office is a whole lot smarter than we realized.

Or maybe there’s no reasonable explanation for how Peyton Hillis(notes) ended up where he is – sparking the suddenly feisty Browns, and leaving Broncos fans writhing in agony over the worst trade of last offseason.

Where is Brady Quinn(notes) these days? You’ll find him scraping barnacles off the bottom of the depth chart, languishing behind Tim Tebow(notes). Yes, that’s the guy whom McDaniels traded Hillis for – he of the career 66.8 quarterback rating and 52 percent completion rate. And it wasn’t even a straight up player-for-player deal. Denver kicked in a sixth-round pick in 2011 and a conditional pick in 2012 to sweeten the pot. Nothing like a couple of bamboo shoots under the fingernails on draft day to remind fans of a team’s brain-searing roster machinations.

Of course, you could give Hoodie Jr. a pass and say that there was no way McDaniels could have known Hillis would be a player who almost singlehandedly destroyed Hoodie Sr. (Bill Belichick) and the Patriots, en route to 220 yards from scrimmage (including 184 yards rushing) and two touchdowns – a guy who through eight games is on pace to rush for 1,288 yards and score 16 total touchdowns.

You could say McDaniels couldn’t have known, and you’d be right. He couldn’t, because McDaniels never took the time to try and know what Hillis was capable of accomplishing. Despite Hillis’ five yards per carry average and five TDs in a meager 68 rushing attempts in 2008, he didn’t get a sniff when McDaniels took over. Instead, the new regime, in its infinite wisdom, went out of its way to try almost anyone at running back other than Hillis. They drafted Knowshon Moreno(notes), signed J.J. Arrington(notes) (then cut him and signed him again), and scooped up injury-addled veterans Correll Buckhalter(notes) and LaMont Jordan(notes). And into the abyss Hillis went, never to be heard from again in 2009, save for 13 meaningless carries in 14 games.

The truth is, McDaniels never believed in Hillis, and the running back said as much when he joined Cleveland this offseason. Maybe only Hillis believed in himself, since nobody in the media (including me) was shooting a thumbs-up in Cleveland’s direction at the time of the deal. Just like nobody talked about Hillis when they lauded the sick talent in the University of Arkansas’ backfield in 2007, yammering non-stop about Darren McFadden(notes) and Felix Jones(notes), and almost never saying a word about Hillis.

Hindsight is cruel in the NFL, and Hillis’ success is downright merciless for a Broncos team that can’t run the football (last in the NFL heading into this weekend) and has watched Moreno struggle to stay on the field.

So Hillis delivers the two-pronged entry this week, making Denver’s shortsightedness a loser, and Cleveland’s sheer luck a winner. I have a feeling both cities will be talking about this trade for years to come.

On to this week’s other winners and losers …
 

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The thing I don't understand is why they never gave him any carries last year? He was very good his rookie year ??? Especially on a team that needs a power back desperately!
 

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Yeah, and Slime, more names could be added, and I'll throw this in for good measure: I honestly think Tatum Bell would be better than anyone we currently have in the backfield, and the Bronc's gave up on him too quickly. Do you remember his (& Shanahan's) last game? With his breakaway speed (which we haven't seen since) he broke off two long TD's.

I'm also one that still, as a fan of exciting football, regrets our sending Cutler and Marshall packing, which I think would've been one of the most electric connections in the NFL for years to come. Interesting, here's a quote I just ran across from the ESPN article written right after Shanahan was fired:

"Cutler, along with receivers Brandon Marshall and Eddie Royal, make up the core of what could be a very promising offense in years to come."

Welp ... didn't work out that way, did it?

Source: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3800768

(BTW I was in favor of Bowlen's decision to let MS go.)
 

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Bell doesn't have an ounce of good character or moral fiber. I can live without him, but yeah, he's more talented then anybody on the roster now.

Even though the broncos performance so far this year dictates that they suck, the goal of "team first" is being achieved.
 

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Just plain weird. ??? When they called him into the coach's office did they say: "Um, Tatum ... that's not what we meant when we told you to get a grip." (?)
 

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The thing I don't understand is why they never gave him any carries last year? He was very good his rookie year ??? Especially on a team that needs a power back desperately!
This is what is hard for me to accept about McD... He is so hard headed... I wanted to see Hillis run. He did great in preseason last year and I was thinking he would be the man... Moreno proved average at best from the get go, and I understand he has to mature, but dang, can't we at least see what the other guys are made of?

So far though, the experts are never right... only Josh.
 

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I said it before and I'll say it again..... Mcd has put this franchise 10 years behind the rest of the league with his idiotic personnal moves. You DO NOT give away "pro bowl" type talent and then turn around and waste the draft picks you receive.
Hillis is a prime example.... good player who did'nt fit the Mcd scheme.... never even got a chance after his fumble in the home opener last year... Richard Quinn? Zane Beedles? Alphonso Smith? (who is doing quite well in a new system) Moreno? That tells me Mcd's "system" might be at fault... as well as his evaluation of talent...

Mc D is another egotistical punk.... he's not a good coach... a "good" coach would take his ideas and BLEND them into the talent he has available. He would NOT alienate the player cause he dosen't fit that coaches "style"
He (McD) was supposed to be a qb "guru"... then why didn't he spend time with Cutler and make him a better qb.... instead of telling him "its my way or the hiway" Of course, Cutler didn't help any either....
Sad, Sad, At least with Shanny, we could expect the team to contend for a playoff spot most years.... and they weren't too boring to watch, either...
 

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The thing I don't understand is why they never gave him any carries last year? He was very good his rookie year ??? Especially on a team that needs a power back desperately!
All Cutler's buddies were banished by the end of the off-season
 
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