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I change the line on my reels at least every year, sometimes more. I always had the problem of the darn spools, half full, lying around without a good way to organize them. I also would keep some spools on the boat for emergency respools, with the same organization problem, not to mention the various test of leader spools floating around the boat.

I found the answer. I saw it in this years Berkley Fishing catalog.

The Line Station



This thing is great. It holds 6 regular size spools or 2 quarter pound spools. The front opens up to access 6 spots to pull line from. Each location has a spot to lable the line on that spool. I bought mine at Bass Pro in Denver. Its fairly small, so it will not clutter the boat.

 

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It looks cool, but if someone loads a spinning reel by unrolling it off the supply spool as shown in the illustration, they are going to have a world record case of line twist. The spool will lay the line out straight, but the reel will turn the line over exactly once with each revolution of the reel.

This is not what line manufacturers want you to do, and it is not what reel manufacturers want you to do.

I would keep the spools of line in the case, but I would take the spool out of the case to fill my reel from it.

You could fill a baitcasting reel that way, though, and it should work perfectly.
 
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Not to mention in the illustration the line being loaded directly to the reel instead of going through an eyelit first, thats funny
 

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Walking Eagle said:
The spool will lay the line out straight, but the reel will turn the line over exactly once with each revolution of the reel.
WE,
I stick a pen through the new spool of line from out the package and then reel it onto my spinning reel's spool. Normally, I have somene hold that pen while keeping the tension just perfect while I reel the line in on the other end. I'm sure a lot of people do this... Are you saying I've been doing it wrong all this time? If so, please enlighten me on the correct way. I don't know if you remember seeing this, but at Lon Hagler that one day, I struggled with what I call 'new line consequence' for 1 out of about every 3 casts that morning. That usually occurs with most times I put on new line. It takes about a good morning of casting to 'break' it in (meaning: until it stops goin' out in a bird's nest).

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W.E., you're right, I wouldn't load my spinning gear up that way either. It was just the picture on the box and it was a good view of what the thing looked like. I am constantly tying new leaders and this will work great for me. I've been waiting for something like this for a long time.
 

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1eyeReD said:
Are you saying I've been doing it wrong all this time?
It sure sounds like it. The supply spool should not turn. You don't roll the line off the spool, you pull it off the broad side so it spirals around as it goes to the reel.

The theory behind it is this. The spinning reel puts a twist in the line as it reels in the line. There is no way to avoid this. Every time the bail goes around for a full revolution, it puts one full twist in the line.

By pulling the line off the end of the supply spool, instead of rolling the spool, you actually put a reverse twist in the line. One twist for every time the line cycles around the spool. Then the spinning reel puts its own twist in the line which cancels out the reverse twist formed by the supply spool. The end result is -- no twist. Or very little. The mismatch in size between the supply spool and the reel spool will still leave a little twist but you can live with it.

That's kind of a poor explanation, here's a link to the Stren web site where you can see what they say about it. Check out the section under "filling a spinning reel".

http://www.stren.com/riggingup.htm

None of this applies to baitcasting reels, they don't have the problem.

W. E.


P. S. I put one hand part way up the rod and pinch the line just a little as I'm winding it on, in order to put a little tension on it. It's a little awkward perhaps, but you don't want to wind the line up too loosely.
 

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W.E., you're right, I wouldn't load my spinning gear up that way either. It was just the picture on the box and it was a good view of what the thing looked like. I am constantly tying new leaders and this will work great for me. I've been waiting for something like this for a long time.
I agree, it would be just the ticket for leader materials. Most of us have way more spools of fishing line than would fit in that case, but for leaders I can see where it would be really good.
 

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I agree with WE.

Observe the rod at arms length - crank the handle - most of the time the bail will move in a counter clockwise direction. Next set the spool down label facing up, watch the direction the line comes off the spool. Most of the time it will be clockwise.

Flip the spool over apply a little tension and load the line on to your reel.

In summary, in my experience - put the label on the ground, and load the line on to the spinning reel. Just my experience... the manufacturers all do it the same way, they spin the same directions.

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Wow... There's a new wrinkle in my brain. Thanks, WE. And no, that was not a poor explanation at all. It was a great explanation, I almost could even visualize you doing a demonstration. Kinda funny though, I thought my question was poorly worded too when I read it over, but from your answer, it looks like you understood what I was trying to mumble out.
And to think all these years, I was so convinced that it was just the  'new line consequence' phenomenon..... OOoooohhh, that was just too cool, what I learned. I'll sleep better tonight thanks to WE.

Thanks for the additional tip also, TALO362. I'll try it with the label facing down. That additional tip will allow me to sleep so well that I'll snore.

Thank you both!!
1eyeReD
 

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Be sure to apply the "twist test" mentioned in that link I gave. The only reason I say that, is because TAL gets results with the label down, and I have had cases where the label had to be up.

And now... one more item to blow your mind. >:D

Here's a picture of a little deal I made that allows me to load a spinning reel and still let the supply spool spin on a pencil like you wanted to do. This is just a 3" piece of 6-32 threaded rod, with two nuts and washers. There are two flats filed on opposite sides of the upper end. That's to fit the hole in the spool of your spinning reel. You remove the spool from the reel and mount it on the bolt, snugging it up tight with the nuts and washers. Then you chuck the other end of the bolt into an electric drill.

Mount your supply spool on a pencil or something similar and get somebody to hold it, or put it in a vise. Then spin the spool with the drill and let the line roll off the supply spool and onto the reel spool. You can fill the spool in a few seconds and there will be no twist in the line.

After all this fuss about line twist! The reason this works is because the line is not being wound on by the action of the reel, so no twist is applied to it.



The only question you have to solve is........ which direction should the drill turn? But I'm sure you can figure it out. ;D

I should also apologize to laker taker for hijacking his topic. But I think we agree that the line station bag is a good deal.
 

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1eyeReD, look what a person learns on this site!!! I have been loading reals the same way as you all this time. Now I know different. thanks to all!
 

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Hey Laker thanks for the post. That does look like a good way to organize all those spools laying around the boat. I will have to get one. Add to my list.
 

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A trick that has helped me to avoid the initial "birds nest" with a newly filled spool is to run the spool under luke warm water after filling to "reset" the memory from the larger filler spool to the reel spool. It helps a bunch.
 

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Oh my great minds think alike ::) ::) ::)...I drop mine into a bowl of warm water over night...preferably a couple of days ahead of time so they can dry out and reform to the spool...
 
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