kindler gentler mikey...he's been slaying eyes...its the only thing on his radar...hopefully before the bite dies or he will be in your ish...those are great boots...I have a pair of them...warm, as water proof as boots get...and I have the big feet malady...you know what they say...big feet big boots...mucks weigh nothing...none of that steel shank crap...like wearing helium on your feet...can walk forever in them...they would of probably already sold if you didnt have delusional grandpa sized hands for feet...I'm just glad slayer didn't ***** about my price!