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Good write up as always Eric, thank you for sharing!!! YEP, I think this qualifies as fragile waters going to waste!!! Since that whole area is suppose to be a protected wildlife area I guess they don't consider the fish as needing protected! SMH!!!
 

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I'm still going to write a letter but I have zero expectations with it making any impact at all. It was clear what their intentions were before when they held a meeting and went against everything we suggested.... We wanted the orientation to be longer and really stress proper fish handling and the tools needed to safely release a pike. A couple years later they did away with the orientation altogether and from that point on the poor fish handling got even worse. Now it's not uncommon to see someone walking the dam with an ultralight their ultralight trout rig with a steel lead attached to a big kastmaster or something similar. After fighting a 25 inch pike for 10 minutes they fumble around trying to release the fish without jaw spreaders or a pair of pliers. 10 minutes after that there's a floater..... It's not uncommon to see a few floaters along the dam. As much as that pisses me off I can walk away from the dam and fish my usual spots away from the masses. After they're done I have a feeling those spots that used to take a little work to get to will have parking lots built closer to them and all the cattails and trees removed to add easier access which just equates to more money.

I miss the good old days out there when they reminded everyone this is a privilege and if you shmucks can't get it right we'll just close the entire fishing program down.
 

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I basically quit going out there when they stopped the orientations, there's far too much stupidity out there for me to deal with...
 

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Nice read Eric!

I was out there today and saw the tree removal that has taken place. I found a write up about it on the Arsenals web page that might help to explain it some. It doesn't appear that the tree removal is aimed at making access for fishermen easier, although it does. It's main purpose is to help prevent dam breaches like the one that occurred at Havana Ponds with the big flood in 2013.

From the Arsenal web page:



Tree and Vegetation Removal Around Refuge Lakes Begins April 13, 2015
Beginning April 13, 2015, trees and other woody vegetation around Lake Mary, Lake Ladora and Lower Derby dams will be removed. They are impacting the stability of the dams and large tree roots can create seepage paths. Large trees can blow over during a storm and damage the dam, which may cause a breach. To ensure the safety of these dams these trees and woody vegetation must be removed.


Work begins at Lake Mary on April 13, Lake Ladora on April 24 and Lower Derby on May 18. We may need to close roads along the Wildlife Drive while crews are working at Lake Ladora. More information will be posted in the near future.

If you have any questions please call the Visitor Center Wednesday – Sunday from 9:00 am – 4:00 pm at 303-289-0930.

Thank you for your understanding and patience during this important dam safety project.

Refuge Staff
 

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Nice read Eric!

I was out there today and saw the tree removal that has taken place. I found a write up about it on the Arsenals web page that might help to explain it some. It doesn't appear that the tree removal is aimed at making access for fishermen easier, although it does. It's main purpose is to help prevent dam breaches like the one that occurred at Havana Ponds with the big flood in 2013.

From the Arsenal web page:



Tree and Vegetation Removal Around Refuge Lakes Begins April 13, 2015
Beginning April 13, 2015, trees and other woody vegetation around Lake Mary, Lake Ladora and Lower Derby dams will be removed. They are impacting the stability of the dams and large tree roots can create seepage paths. Large trees can blow over during a storm and damage the dam, which may cause a breach. To ensure the safety of these dams these trees and woody vegetation must be removed.


Work begins at Lake Mary on April 13, Lake Ladora on April 24 and Lower Derby on May 18. We may need to close roads along the Wildlife Drive while crews are working at Lake Ladora. More information will be posted in the near future.

If you have any questions please call the Visitor Center Wednesday – Sunday from 9:00 am – 4:00 pm at 303-289-0930.

Thank you for your understanding and patience during this important dam safety project.

Refuge Staff
Thank you! Like you mention it might explain some of the things they're doing out there, but only some. This press release might help with the PR side of things for the general public but it's not enough to calm down a bitter old fart like myself!
 
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