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Im new to Colorado as of 14 months ago. Didnt really fish last year due to my living conditions and everything was in storage.

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I plan on doing quite a bit of kayak fishing once the ice melts. I have a trolling motor for my kayak that is removable in order for me to still be able to paddle when the weather is behaving.

Ive searched on various sites to see what I need to do to register it and what I need to keep on board for when I have the motor attached. All of the sites are clear as mud though.

Any help on what I will need to do (to keep it legal with and without the motor) would be appreciated.
 

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http://parks.state.co.us/Boating/Registrations/Pages/BoatingRegistrations.aspx

http://parks.state.co.us/Boating/RulesandRegulations/Pages/BoatingRulesandRegs.aspx

Any boat with a motor or sail operated in Colorado on any public waters must be registered with Colorado State Parks.

To register your boat, complete the Boat Registration and return it to:

Colorado State Parks-Registration Unit
13787 S Highway 85
Littleton, CO 80125

You may also register your boat at many State Parks and offices; for a list of the nearest registration location, click here. Always call ahead to ensure services are available.

Registration Fees
The annual registration fees are determined by the length of the boat. For the 2010 Registration season the fees are as follows:

Less than 20 feet in length - $35.25
20 fee to less than 30 feet - $45.25
30 feet or greater - $75.25

Registrations are valid from January 1 to December 31 each year. This is a flat administrative transaction fee - it cannot be prorated for a partial year's registration and will not be subject to refund if the boat is sold or stolen.

Boat Registration Renewals
Registration renewal cards are mailed to currently registered owners each November. You may also renew your registration online by going to the web address on the back of the renewal card. You MUST have your registration number to renew online or please call 303-791-1920 to get your information.

Purchasing a new boat
When you purchase a boat, you may operate the boat up to 30 days from the date of sale. You must carry your dated bill of sale on board with you. Since the registration process may take up to eight weeks, you will want to complete and submit your boat registration application right away.
 

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http://parks.state.co.us/Boating/Registrations/Pages/BoatingRegistrations.aspx

http://parks.state.co.us/Boating/RulesandRegulations/Pages/BoatingRulesandRegs.aspx

Any boat with a motor or sail operated in Colorado on any public waters must be registered with Colorado State Parks.

To register your boat, complete the Boat Registration and return it to:

Colorado State Parks-Registration Unit
13787 S Highway 85
Littleton, CO 80125

You may also register your boat at many State Parks and offices; for a list of the nearest registration location, click here. Always call ahead to ensure services are available.

Registration Fees
The annual registration fees are determined by the length of the boat. For the 2010 Registration season the fees are as follows:

Less than 20 feet in length - $35.25
20 fee to less than 30 feet - $45.25
30 feet or greater - $75.25

Registrations are valid from January 1 to December 31 each year. This is a flat administrative transaction fee - it cannot be prorated for a partial year's registration and will not be subject to refund if the boat is sold or stolen.

Boat Registration Renewals
Registration renewal cards are mailed to currently registered owners each November. You may also renew your registration online by going to the web address on the back of the renewal card. You MUST have your registration number to renew online or please call 303-791-1920 to get your information.

Purchasing a new boat
When you purchase a boat, you may operate the boat up to 30 days from the date of sale. You must carry your dated bill of sale on board with you. Since the registration process may take up to eight weeks, you will want to complete and submit your boat registration application right away.
Thank you very much!!! Easy enough for my low IQ to understand.
 

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i havent seen very many yaks with a trolling motor. you got any pics???
I have a video of it running on my old computer. Ill see if I can get my old PC to boot. Pretty sure its toast. I attached a pic of the motor though.

Its a MinnKota Endura 30 Motor and shaft. The rest was made by myself over a few year prior of trial and error. Thankfully with my low IQ I was able to build one of the few carbon fiber trolling motor setups youll see....if not the only one.

Im in the process of re-designing it. Should get slightly better turning radius out of the new design. Plus less drag.
 

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what! carbon fiber.... man, any pics of it mounted? a cf yak and that would be sweet...
I agree.

That's on my bucket list. But I won't do it if I can't do it right. which means I need to have a lot of space to store 15 + foot molds. which means I need a house.

even then it would mostly be a cosmetic layer of carbon. the rest would be glass and Kevlar. much more impact resistance.

Id snap a pic of it mounted but its in three pieces at the moment. Ill try charging my old laptop all day and see if it will boot up.
 

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What yak do you put that on? That almost looks like it would fit in my hobie.
Hobie Quest 07/08 version.

If you have the factory bracket for the hobie rudder than it will fit. Youd just have to drill out your two existing connectors that attach to the rudder. And then drill out the two holes on the Hobie rudder for when you want to put the rudder back on for exercise.

Edit: And youd also have to figure out how to power it.

I used a 6 pin trailer hitch connector. That plugged into the rear hatch. Wires ran from there up to the center hatch were I relocated the speed controller. Bought a generic turn nob (like 1/2" tall by 1.5" wide) and attached it to the speed controller. You have to drill through the middle hatch but its barely noticeable and it allows me to fish hands free. 5 speeds forward, 3 in reverse.
 

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Hobie Quest 07/08 version.

If you have the factory bracket for the hobie rudder than it will fit. Youd just have to drill out your two existing connectors that attach to the rudder. And then drill out the two holes on the Hobie rudder for when you want to put the rudder back on for exercise.

Edit: And youd also have to figure out how to power it.

I used a 6 pin trailer hitch connector. That plugged into the rear hatch. Wires ran from there up to the center hatch were I relocated the speed controller. Bought a generic turn nob (like 1/2" tall by 1.5" wide) and attached it to the speed controller. You have to drill through the middle hatch but its barely noticeable and it allows me to fish hands free. 5 speeds forward, 3 in reverse.
I bet it didn't cost 2000$ either like the hobie motors... sounds really sweet. Would love to see it on the water.
 

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Hobie Quest 07/08 version.

If you have the factory bracket for the hobie rudder than it will fit. Youd just have to drill out your two existing connectors that attach to the rudder. And then drill out the two holes on the Hobie rudder for when you want to put the rudder back on for exercise.

Edit: And youd also have to figure out how to power it.

I used a 6 pin trailer hitch connector. That plugged into the rear hatch. Wires ran from there up to the center hatch were I relocated the speed controller. Bought a generic turn nob (like 1/2" tall by 1.5" wide) and attached it to the speed controller. You have to drill through the middle hatch but its barely noticeable and it allows me to fish hands free. 5 speeds forward, 3 in reverse.
I bet it didn't cost 2000$ either like the hobie motors... sounds really sweet. Would love to see it on the water.
 

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I bet it didn't cost 2000$ either like the hobie motors... sounds really sweet. Would love to see it on the water.
For sure! Ill be at Aurora and Quincy often.

as for cost it cost me a LOT of money through trial and error to develop it.

As for reproducing it you're correct. it would cost me well under the retail kayak motors. I mean not even in the same ball park cheap.

Believe it or not the most expensive part are the fasteners I used. All in the name of keeping it dual use (motor or paddle). I believe for the three fasteners it was around $110. The Deka 33 amp hour battery was $160. Those are the bulk of the cost.

The carbon is expensive but not compared to those. My new design which im starting to build today uses less carbon and will be lighter and have a better turning radius. looking to be able to spin the tail 360.
 

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i have a carbon fiber windscreen on my sportbike. the cf takes rock hits at well above "posted speed limits" cf is quite durable. but can be expensive.
 

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You ever GPS your top speed with the motor?
The top speed via GPS when the battery was fresh was around 6.1 mph

Im going to look into an aftermarket prop. Or even testing one of those weed cutter props. I know there's a lot of math behind prop design but those weed cutters look like they displace more water.

I may also upgrade to a 55lbs motor. Lots of maybes right now.
 

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i have a carbon fiber windscreen on my sportbike. the cf takes rock hits at well above "posted speed limits" cf is quite durable. but can be expensive.
The durability is almost 99% the physical properties of the epoxy you use. With respect to rocks and small debris.

My fear is something going wrong with the electrical and I smash into a rock. something like Kevlar or tedium would give me a fighting chance to paddle back to shore. Carbon will snap under heavy impact if its a thin layup.

edit: not tedium....TEXALIUM is what I meant. (aluminum/fiberglass cross woven)
 

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Did it feel safe at 6? I know when the water is glass smooth and I pedal hard as I can it feels a little squirley turning hard. 6 mph is pretty fast for a yak. I've read that trolling motors can only push a floating device as fast as it is resistant to the water. I wonder how much faster the 55 would be. Man I want one. So when you say you made holes for the pedal drive do you have a new hole for the pedal drive? That would be a pretty big hole to make for the mirage drive to fit in. Either way man props to you for making a cf one.
 
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