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I can keep minnows alive over night and all day long, no prob. What about 2 days? As long as I keep them in a cool place and an air pump in the water they seem to do fine but what about longer than a day?

Heres the deal: I took off work on Tues and wan to fish early Tuesday morn. Normally id buy the monnows the day before and no problems but with the 4th on Monday im guessing Gander Mnt. Isn't open Monday therefore id have to buy the minnows on Sunday night.

Will they keep from Sunday Night till Tues Morn????


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Ive noticed in the winter when its cold in the garage,they will last almost indefinately-In summer when its hot they die quickly. So you gotsta keep 'em cool. I set my minnow bucket in a larger bucket that has ice in it,Or use a small bucket and put it in a cooler with ice.Or the refridge, The wife loves that!!
 

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So with that said I guess the key is to make sure they stay cool. Last time I got minnows I dumped some ice in the bucket but alot more than I normally do and I guess they went into shock cause a bunch of them died.

Guess ill try yuor suggestion.


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the problem is not from the heat attleast directly the problem is with contaminated water from the fish waste down around 50 and below there metabalizim slows down and so does there production of waste so the trick is to keep the volume of waste in the water as low as possible there are 3 ways to do this and you can do them all for the best result

1 keep the water cool that way less waste is produced


2 have more water for the same number of fish


3 remove the waste thru water changes or biological/chemical filtration


heres what i do for long term staorage (i have a couple dozen from back in late feb still going stong and actualy growing) i have a 30 gal fish tank i run a pair of "penguin bio wheel 330" filters (http://www.marineland.com/products/consumer/con_penguinfilters.asp) and change the charcol and amonia crystals about every 2 weeks or when the water starts to cloud i keep the water around 68-70 degrees and feed them goldfish flakes 2-3 times a day they fatten up nice and grow when ever i bring home left over bait from a trip i drop them in that when you see how much the last batch grew i also run a couple bublers i think i could get by with out them i had them so i run them. i do lose a few but not many

this is how i keep them going for several days like when on a week or longer trip

i carry the minnow in my regular minnow bucket to and from the lake or store but then for overnight or more i fill a good sized cooler chest with water i put some aquasafe water conditioner in the bottom of the chest then fill with the hose make sure you use enough doesnt seem like to much hurts it is like a spoonfull per 10 gallons

i use this to treat tap water when filling the chest or making water changes i get it at walmart



when the chest is full (no waiting time)i then dip the minnows out and put them in the chest they can stay a good 36 hours like that if you need to keep them longer then you need to change the water just treat some tap water in a bucket dip the minnows in to the bucket dump the cooler the refill using the water conditioner and dip the minnows back
depending on how many minnows and how big your chest the time will vary if the water starts to get a smell to it time to change it i also run the bubler in the chest
i have kept lots of shinners for well over a week with verualy no loss useing this method
some time i keep the chest full of water and put the minnows in there when im done fishing for the day then just put them back in my minnow bucket the next morning to go fishing if they are not in the chest during the day the water in the chest last longer also

i use the water conditioner whenever i buy bait just a couple drops in the bucket when i get out of the store cause it removes a lot of the waste and has things that are like stress reducers and helps there slime coat

im putting to gether a 200 gallon horse trough with cusom filters so i can start buying mi shiners buy the pound and get some of those 6" plus shinner that i cant seam to find

when i get it going ill post about it

hope this help a bit
 

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id be more than happy to but i dont think you would like the drive i live like 1 hour west of pueblo.
 

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how big is big for shinners i here they grow to 12 inches i wonder what we could dredge up at pueblo with some 12 inch shnners?
 

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no problem hope they work for you and good luck on tues catch a fat one for me
 

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I pretty much use the same setup as roadkill. Except my aquarium is smaller and I only have 1 filter. I keep it in the garage with no extra cooling or anything. Fatheads spawn around 70 degrees so if you place nice rocks for cover you may have eggs. It's a pain to try and raise the eggs so that they dont get eaten so I dont even try. IF they hatch and survive then I dont complain (havent had any survive the filter). I do a 10-15% water change once a week, which is recommended by pet stores when keeping fish.
They survive until I need them, I also keep crawdad's in there so occasionally I lose 1.
 

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Jay,
i just buy about 3 or 4 dozen minnows at a time and throw them in a 20 gallon fish tank in my basement. It's nice and cool down there and I keep it dark which they seem to like. You can buy a 10 gallon tank and filter for about 20 bucks and it should do you fine. Just like roadkill said, don't use tap water!!! If you do, you have to let it stand for 2-3 days to remove the chlorine. Or you can just buy the tap water conditioner. I have keep minnows for months in my tank with very few dying. I think it's because I never feed them, I let them eat off of the dead ones which isn't good. But I wouldn't recommend feeding them more than once a day or else you will start to get an ammonia build up. Just do a weekly water change of about 20% I have had fish since I was a kid and even ran my uncles fish store for over a year by myself so I learned a lot about keeping fish. Since you don't have a basement just keep them out of direct sunlight. Don't bother looking for a chiller either, they run a couple hundred bucks!!! Hope this helps some.
 

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i agree with what got muskie said about over feeding that is why i run 2 of them big filters if you check the link they have a special biowheel that really helps keep the amonia down they are the best filters you can hang on a tank you have to go to cabinit/cartridge type filters if you need more power

when i ran a 110 gallon fishtank i had a 55 gallon drum full of bioballs set up as a trickle filter man i never had to change the water just clean the filter once a year and top off the water level to make up for evaporation
 

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I've never heard of bioballs before but they must be something like a biological filter. I have a pond in my back yard that stays clear and when I test the ammonia it is within limits. Bacteria and other microscopic organisms break down the ammonia into nitrates and the plants in my pond and algae growing on the rocks and sides take care of the nitrates. (you can introduce beneficial bacteria and jump start a biological filter by using a couple of gallens of lake water added to dechlorinated water). Keeping everything pretty much in balance. I also make sure I remove dead fish and other dead stuff.

If you are running an aquarium for your minnows let the algae grow on the side, (it will need regular light) remove dead things and every week remove up to 20% of the water and replace it with water that has been sitting out uncovered at least overnight!

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yep bioballs are a biological medium they are a bout the size golf balls but have a huge surface are they are kinda like a thin disc with a bunch of thin rod poking thru and shaped like a ball the huge surface area provide a surface for the nitrafying (sp?) bacteria and by trickleing the water thru (verses flooded) the bacteria gets more oxygen tremendously increasing the yeild
 
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