Went to 11mile on monday. Fished witchers cove in about 100' of water. The guys flashin cowbells were landin um every couple of minutes from about 830-1000am. We didn't have any flashers so they couldn't see our bait, but we had one school stop by at 15'. We could see them down the hole, and they each took a close look at my rooster tail and moved on. It was pretty awesome to see. I asked the fellas what they were using and they said kastmasters, swedish pimples tipped w/mealies along with their flashbox. They also said they were fishing 20-50'.We had no flashbox, and that was the difference I think.