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To tame line slap and achieve greater casting distance. I have a set, and two identical blanks to setup and test them out.
 

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drew, why is it that they use the bigger guide first? Could they just use a tiny one? Is it asthetics or does the bigger guide start the contraction of the line?
 

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I'm not sure, I do know that someone makes one without the normal size guide. Basically a micro guide that stands off where the normal stripper guide is. I may have to try that too. I want to try 4 guide setups for distance casting, new concept, tunnel, microwave, and what I've been using, which is a modified new concept style.
 

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From what I've been hearing from other builders who have tested it.....it does increase casting distance, but I want to test it to see how much it improves. Just need a windless day and someone to help cast and measure.
 

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Oh, and I got a bunch of different micro guides and other types of guides to test baitcasting distances as well.
 

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drew, why is it that they use the bigger guide first? Could they just use a tiny one? Is it asthetics or does the bigger guide start the contraction of the line?
I read somewhere that the big ring helps funnel the line into the micro guide and helps keep it from wrapping on the guide, but don't remember where.



I am looking forward to seeing your results. There is also some sweet footage of line shooting through the guides that I saw.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c24OJ1ypSI&feature=player_embedded#at=24

Interesting when you think of the friction involved and line speed and change in wave length of the moving line.
 

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Interesting... Surf fishing rods have huge eyelets and they cast over 100 yards. I have noticed differences in casting distance depending on how far the first eyelet is from the reel, the size of the eyelet and the size of the spool on the reel, and of course the line... All of these things play together in the physics of the cast. There is something to it for sure. I usually measure my casting distance at the football field at the high school near my house. Stand on the 0 yard line and let her rip, then just walk out to your weight or whatever and see what yard line it landed on.
 

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Ive read a lot of good about them on rodbuilders.org.

Ill watch with interest but will probably never use them unless the gains are big and could actually be beneficial for regular use.
 

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Interesting...the concept behind bigger guides, then going to smaller was to route line coils off of a spinning reel. If you had too small of guides, there was a risk of the line wrapping around the guide and the line snapping (which happens a lot in distance casting tournaments - a stray 5/8oz plug can do more damage than stray golf balls).

I'm wondering if the difference relates to the advancement of line technology - reduced memory and coiling?

Would love to hear your thoughts after testing.
 

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To tame line slap and achieve greater casting distance. I have a set, and two identical blanks to setup and test them out.

I have them on my custom rod that I just received. I have only take the rod out twice but my rod casts like a dream!
 

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Well...
 

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have customer rods to finish....should have some guides wrapped on by sunday....I need the rods to fish with too....but I could use some help with the casting and recording measurements.
 

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I've been on a tear lately, I got one of these rods wrapped last night. The rod with my guide setup is wrapped and ready for the guides to be finished. I had some questions as to how they measure the guide setup for the microwave guides. They have the guide measurements given to you, but I did not know if that was for the guide foot, or the guide ring. I found it was for the guide ring, so I will relocate those and get that word wrapped up within the week as well. Testing will comence shortly after.
 

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Alrighty, this one is long overdue...

I could not get the stars to align just right to put together weather, and additional casters, and people to measure to the nearest foot.....So here's what I did.

It was nice and calm out, I took both rods out back to my casting range and made a few casts with a spook(hookless) to get the linemoved a bit. Between each and every cast I used a rag and ran the line back into the spool with tension, reeling the spook without holding the line would have allowed the line to bounce around at the end and the line lay tension would have been inconsistent. The line is 8 pound CXX Flouroclear. So I started casting with the rod that had the new concept guide setup on it, got a good feel for the range and I placed a frisby out at the "average" distance of my casts. I flung a few more times to see where I was with them. The spook did a bit of tumbling in the air, but it was always within 5 feet of the frisby. Then I put the reel on the microwave guided rod and went to casting with it. I was averaging roughly 10 more feet per cast using this setup. Not what I expected....

That said, in talking with some others over on Tackle Tour Forums, they got different results than I did, but they were using a smaller lure, so this is something I will re-visit in the yard in the coming days to see if the same holds true. I also have a reel spooled with 12 pound mono, I hear this is where the line rating will start to have an affect using these guides.

So, nothing conclusive, but the guides don't seem to hamper my ability to fish, I did take the microwave guided rod out and gave it a whirl one night and put an 8 pound wipe a few spots and a 10 pound carp on the bank.
 
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