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So there's a spot on a river near my apartment with a nice eddy that's always got a bunch of foam built up in it. I've stopped by it several nights in the past week, and there are always a few trout rising to midges stuck in the foam. I've had marginal success using a Matt's midge about a foot from a small thingamabobber (solely because it's impossible to track the dry in that foam). What do you guys use in this situation?
 

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Tried an indicator dry with a dropper to the midge?

How far are they moving to get the midges, I dunno... are they in a feeding lane and getting them as the come by or are they going up to this foam to get them.

Interesting. Not sure if I've helped any.

I'll be curious to see what everyone else has to offer.
 

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Tried an indicator dry with a dropper to the midge?

How far are they moving to get the midges, I dunno... are they in a feeding lane and getting them as the come by or are they going up to this foam to get them.

Interesting. Not sure if I've helped any.

I'll be curious to see what everyone else has to offer.
A bigger dry with the midge dropper may work...I've had a couple hit the indicator. They don't really seem to have lanes, but the individual fish seem to stick to certain areas. The size/shape of the foam is constantly changing, so I think it's hard for them to really set up lanes. I guess I'm more interested in what patterns you guys would throw...
 

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Have you varied the size?
I haven't, and I've only tried a #20 g. gnat and a #20 Matt's midge. I have to admit, my midge selection is pretty small. I've got them in #18-22, and a few other patterns as well. The real ones seem slightly smaller, but I was hoping it would help them stand out a bit. On one hand I feel I need to go smaller, on the other I feel that will make my flies too difficult for them to find.
 

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eddy fish like to take the most injured of the insect world. Cripples, and emergers are the typical fare.

stuck in the shuck midge

http://http://www.theweeklyfly.com/TWF/2013/03/11/wayne-luallen-s-stuck-shuck-midge-16-53

Cripples

and my favorite, the Sprout Midge (emerger)

One last thing, throw ant's. On warmer days this time of year, they are out in force already and with wind, they are blown in most days. I like the smaller ones this time of year in black and orange. Size 18 and 20.

I like to put an orange foam ant in a 18 trailed by a sprout about 12" off.
 

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I'd suggest getting as close to the size of the naturals as possible, I don't think color matters as much (within reason). Also, just sit and watch and try to figure out what stage of the bugs they are eating, which can change day to day...
 

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eddy fish like to take the most injured of the insect world. Cripples, and emergers are the typical fare.

stuck in the shuck midge

http://http://www.theweeklyfly.com/TWF/2013/03/11/wayne-luallen-s-stuck-shuck-midge-16-53

Cripples
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibj7EahZeqA

and my favorite, the Sprout Midge (emerger)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43pu6m3dhVI

One last thing, throw ant's. On warmer days this time of year, they are out in force already and with wind, they are blown in most days. I like the smaller ones this time of year in black and orange. Size 18 and 20.

I like to put an orange foam ant in a 18 trailed by a sprout about 12" off.
I like the bigger dry with an emerger idea...I havent seen any ants at all this year though...still think its worth a shot?
 

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I'd suggest getting as close to the size of the naturals as possible, I don't think color matters as much (within reason). Also, just sit and watch and try to figure out what stage of the bugs they are eating, which can change day to day...
I've gone down there several times without even bringing a rod, just watching them. I've spent several hours doing this, and there are always a bunch of adult midges in the foam, as well as a small number of them flying around. When I go there, it's always in the evening (5pm until dark) so I've just assumed it's mostly going to be adults available.
 

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Try a Griffith's Gnat in the foam.
I'd get rid of the indicator....if a fish rises where you think your fly is....set the hook.
If you must use an indicator just tie on a larger dark colored dry fly big enough to see in the foam about 16-18 inches above the Griffith's Gnat.
You may get hits on either fly.
 

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^yes
 

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I would do what Falling Apart said. If you want to catch fish a good rule of thumb is to do what Falling Apart says... always. I'm not kidding.

Anything he says between the hours of midnight and 5am especially - is gospel. You have been bestowed with divine knowledge by the prophet.

Run now... run to your foamy eddy.
 

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you might try the biostrike indicator puddy(lack of better term).
It might get lost in the foam as well???
I use it when i dry fly tiny flies (or if the glare is bad) helps locate flies or at least the general area of the flies so if you see a rise within the general area you can set the hook.
 

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I would do what Falling Apart said. If you want to catch fish a good rule of thumb is to do what Falling Apart says... always. I'm not kidding.

Anything he says between the hours of midnight and 5am especially - is gospel. You have been bestowed with divine knowledge by the prophet.

Run now... run to your foamy eddy.
married life is clearly making you punchy.....let's go fish
 
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