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A couple of weeks ago while I was at Bonny, I was thinking to myself how I wished we had more lakes with them! We have several warm water fisheries that are overrun with Shad, (Lonetree, Pueblo and Cherry Creek come to mind). The DOW says that is the main reason fishing is tough there?

Pueblo would be a great lake to put them in? They eat shad and self propagate. Nothing wrong with Wipers but wouldn't White Bass eat alot of small shad? I know Wipers put some strain on the DOW because they have to trade walleye eggs for striper. It would be cool to have schools of both Wipers and Whites. And the whites would self sustain themselves and are easy to catch. Who knows maybe some of the Wipers might get realeased if people knew they could keep all the White bass they caught?

When they get up to about 1 1/2 to 2lbs they are a blast!
 

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have you seen the new wipers most dont have broken lines on there side they look just like a white

so are you sure what your catching at bonny is not wipers

they have like two sets of teeth or the rough patch on there
tongue to show that it a wiper not a white

because i thought we were catching both wiper and whites at queens but we were catching just wiper some with broken stripes and some with out you have to look in there mouth now to tell what it is
 

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I know that they have whites in Boyd and I do not believe that there are wipers stocked there either. You have to know your stuff if there are both in a lake and they are not concidered "in Aggregate" as far as limits are concerned. The tongue patch is probably the best way to tell them apart.
You are right, little silver rockets...
 

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How about a lake on the west slope...I can only wish...No baitfish in any of our lakes, no wiper, no white bass, one walleye lake...we can't have anything good except stocker trout until they stop trying to save the darn chubs. Don't complain until you know what it's like with noooooooo wipers, white bass, or anything fancy like that at all.
 

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TroutFishingBear said:
How about a lake on the west slope...I can only wish...No baitfish in any of our lakes, no wiper, no white bass, one walleye lake...we can't have anything good  except stocker trout until they stop trying to save the darn chubs. Don't complain until you know what it's like with noooooooo wipers, white bass, or anything fancy like that at all.
Not to rub it in, but man, that sure does suck. If I win the lotto, I'll pay for you to get a trip out here...

BTW, I sure as hell wished we had lakes with 10 to 12 inch bluegills out here. ;)
 

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You ever fish Chipeta lake right outside of Montrose? I know that they have Cat's, Bass and decent Bluegills. No whites or wipes that I know of though...
 

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I've never fished it, but I've heard of it. The DOW also stocks trout there I believe.
 

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Cherry creek needs some whites to curb the abundant shad, and also the quickest solution would be some pike. Pike when managed properly make fisheries far more healthy and productive. Crawford and Harvey Gap are prime examples.
 

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IceInTheVeins said:
Cherry creek needs some whites to curb the abundant shad, and also the quickest solution would be some pike. Pike when managed properly make fisheries far more healthy and productive. Crawford and Harvey Gap are prime examples.
With the history of the DOW stocking pike, a better option might be a a sterile hybrid such as Tiger Muskie.  Little risk of the water getting over run with new predators.  If they should over utilize the forage base, their numbers will die off over time.  More can be added if needed to curb populations of shad and suckers.

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Dan said:
IceInTheVeins said:
Cherry creek needs some whites to curb the abundant shad, and also the quickest solution would be some pike. Pike when managed properly make fisheries far more healthy and productive. Crawford and Harvey Gap are prime examples.
With the history of the DOW stocking pike, a better option might be a a sterile hybrid such as Tiger Muskie.  Little risk of the water getting over run with new predators.  If they should over utilize the forage base, their numbers will die off over time.  More can be added if needed to curb populations of shad and suckers.

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Agreed about tigers. They would probably be a better bet right now. In fact I think Cherry Creek used to have pike anyways. But if the pike limit is kept high enough I don't think you would have problems with pike getting too numerous. They are in good balance with the trout in 11- mile, Stagecoach, Taylor, and Vallecito. Spinney was just a pike's dream lake. Shallow, tons of weeds? Great spawning habitat. In other lakes, pike can't get like they did at spinney because conditions aren't prime enough for them to overpopulate.
But in some lakes where pike might cause problems, I agree that tigers would be a much better fit. I do think whites would really help cherry creek too though. The stocked trout do eat plenty of small shad but they are caught before they have had time to be in the lake for very long.
 

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I've heard Pueblo used to be stocked with white bass, there could be a few in there still. Haven't heard of any coming out lately. Although Pueblo has a reputation of turning out the occasional rogue fish like pike and musky.
 

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If the white bass eat alot of small shad i'd say put some into cherry creek. They need to do somthing to cut down some of the shad in that lake.'
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