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Cancun, this is on page three of this forum; but simply speaking, a dough ball can be made at the lake, in it's simplest form, like this. 1. Loaf of whole wheat bread (It must be whole wheat, cause fish prefer it) 2. mix a slice with water and roll into ball, and allow it to dry in the sun on top of your tackle box, boat seat...etc. From there, you could add flavorings: vanilla, cinnamon, hot sauce, garlic. Follow the link for more advanced chef arts in dough balls.
 

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This is just an idea brewing in my head, but why not take pilsbury biscut dough and mix in some other stuff to it, like minced garlic, or minced fish of some sort, stinky dead shinners, or crawdad tail, etc, then add something like cornmeal or regular bread to make it firm?
 

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cancun that recipe sounds like one someone's wife had made them nothing but peanut butter sandwhiches and they ran out of beer to wash them down with so the only way they could get rid of them was to use them as bait. hehe
I have this bait recipe saved on my comp that might point you in the right direction, I'll also post it in the catfish bait post to. I dont remember where I got this from.
For years, I have watched a good old friend of mine, I'll call him Robert, sit and catch channelcat left and right while I was sitting patiently nearby, waiting for the Flatheads to bite.

Well I finally coaxed that old time recipe from him, and now I will share it with you, this stuff works great, stays on a regular hook, and wont stink ya up to bad! this recipe makes about 3 gallons of the stuff, so if ya want, cut it in half!

4 Large Bananas
1 Gallon Maple Syrup
12 1/2 Pounds Flour
4 Pounds Cottonseed Meal
1/2 Gallon Cheddar Cheese ( like ya use on nachos )
( optional ) Small Tub Of Catfish Charlie
Mix and mash all this together in a 5 gallon bucket, then divide up into smaller fishin containers with lids and refrigerate until ya need it, I promise folks this stuff works great!

IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT A LOT OF YOU WANTING TO USE THIS BAIT CAN NOT FIND THE COTTONSEED MEAL!

COTTONSEED MEAL CAN BE FOUND AT ALMOST ANY LIVESTOCK FEED MILL OR YOUR LOCAL FEED STORE OR LOCAL FLOWER NURSERY, THIS IS ABOUT THE ONLY PLACES TO FIND IT, SINCE THIS IS A MAIN PART OF THIS RECIPE, IT SHOULD NOT BE SUBSTITUTED.

THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT ON THIS MATTER!
 

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How about a fresh idea from...4,000 miles away. At natural food stores you can find gluten flour. Mix it with liquid or mashed stinky stuff of choice to the texture of peanut butter and it will be amazingly sticky & tough. Won't melt off the hook like bread or regular flour based doughs. Inexpensive suggestions would be fishy canned cat food & blood.

Expect a bit of a mess because the best way to mix & mash it up is with your hands.
 

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Nawanda, a fish would not know the difference between store bought and home made...anyone who fishes for carp will tell you to use a can of biscut dough...carp and catfish will eat a lot of the same baits.
 

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koni growing up I use to fish for carp all the time, if I spent more then 4 hours on the lake and nothing was biting, which you know kids attention span 4 hours was good. I would cast out a couple catfish lines and then head over to the malberry tree and stick some malberries on a hook drop them in under the tree and hold on. Normally we had anywhere from 8-14lb test on the line hooking into 20-40lb carp. I probably could land them now but back then it was all about the fight so needless to say I lost alot of tackle doing this.
I have also learned that this guy makes malberry flies for a fly pole for the exact some reason, I think this would be fun on a fly line too.
 

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;) I heard that carp are a lot of fun to catch. We saw a guy last year hook one at Lake Arbor, and boy did he have a time bringing it in. Once he finally got it up close enough we saw that he had hooked in the back and not the mouth, righ under the top fin, so no wonder he had a hard time, as he was bringing it in sideways. A couple of fellows that were from another country asked me why Americans don't like carp, and said it was a delicasie in their country. (not sure on my spelling there :D).
 

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Re: carp as a delicacy: Coupla years ago we were visiting family in CA and decided to take a drive up to Clear Lake. After a sumptuous meal at the Senior Citizens lunch room courtesy of Pops I wandered over to the local tackle shop and the proprietor said that carp was his favorite eating fish outa the lake. The trick was to let em swim around in a bathtub of clean water for at least a day to get rid of the muddy taste.

And no, I did not get to wet a line in one of the premier big bass lakes in the country.
 

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Colorado's waters are pretty clean as in not muddy so it doesnt matter much here. We use the same technique for catfish we caught in Nebraska cause the rivers there are very muddy. I recommend using an old tub or a horse tank outside and not your good tub, as catfish and carp can turn your nice clean water brown and nasty. The mud rings left after the water is drained can be hard to clean out, and if your wife/girl/mom is a clean freak she will be very pissed off. It does make the fish taste alot better, since I dont like eating fish this is a must for me if I'm going to eat catfish.
 

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Hey that's pretty neat about the catfish in the bathtub. That's were i put mine if they are still alive when i get them home. To be totally honest, i don't have the heart to knock them in the head with a hammer or club, :-[ so i put them in the tub. But i didn't know that it improves the flavor to do that.
 

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Well catfish here and catfish in Nebraska are a little different the water they live in is really muddy and that filters threw their systems so when you put them in the tub it cleans them out and makes your tub dirty. I imagine it would have kind of a similar effect here but just not as bad so the taste difference is probably not that noticable since most the waters here are clear water.
 

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From my knowledge & observation, carp have an underslung suction kind of mouth and filter organic nutrients from loose particulate bottoms. If they're feeding you can see em sucking mud or sand and expelling what they don't swallow past their gill plates or back out of their mouths. Many of you might have observed the mud cloud trails left by feeding carp. So, even if the water appears clear, carp still ingest mud into their system. But, does anyone actually eat carp hereabouts?
 

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Grass carp @ 42lbs
Common carp @ 35lbs 5 ounces
 
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