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below is an email i recieved. i do not know the credibility of the source, so you can google it to find the author or something. i believe the title is "why trump is pushing so hard." its an interesting read to say the least, and horrifying if its true. i wouldnt be surprised if it is. thought id post it on here and see your thoughts. possible? likely? a hoax? feel free to rant and rave as you'd like



This is an article written by
>> an ex IRS investigator....very interesting.
>>
>> Trump is correct, Barry Soetoro, AKA Obama, is hiding
>> something in his past that is very bad... and it may not be
>> his citizenship. (Trump would not say this if he did not
>> know something and, he has the money to get the dirt...)
>>
>> As an IRS tax examiner,one of many former federal jobs, I
>> have seen what it appears Barry Soetoro has done, mostly by
>> illegal aliens attempting to acquire a new identity in the
>> U.S and/or criminals looking to acquire a new ID.
>>
>> Barry, AKA Obama, was lawfully adopted by a foreign
>> national, Lolo Soetoro, and Barry's name was legally changed
>> to "Barry Soetoro". (Barry's own admission) Barry Soetoro
>> was also made an official legal Indonesian citizen. (again
>> Barry's own admission) The adoption would be noted in
>> Barry's vital statistics record in Hawaii on his original
>> birth certificate...OR Lolo Soetoro may have always been
>> Barry's legal birth father. The public does not know for
>> sure at this point who Barry's father really was and Barry
>> himself may not know.
>>
>> Barry was raised as a Muslim in Indonesia and attended a
>> Catholic funded school that permitted all faiths to attend.
>> Barry's mother dropped him as a dependent for some reason,
>> maybe even when Barry was adopted by Lolo Soetoro. His
>> mother's passport records dropped Barry as a dependent
>> indicating Barry was no longer a legal dependent of his
>> mothers. (The passport records of his mother have been
>> produced showing Barry was no longer a dependent when Barry
>> was permanently residing in Indonesia.) Barry went to Hawaii
>> to live with his alleged grand parents after Lolo Soetoro
>> and Barry's mother divorced.
>>
>> A "certificate of live birth" can have names changed on it
>> including a child's birth name, and birth parent's names.
>> Even a modified date of birth can be on a "certificate of
>> live birth". This occurs frequently for adopted
>> children where the birth parent does not want the child to
>> know who they are.
>>
>> The public has no idea who Barry's real birth father is or
>> who Barry's real birth mother is. (Barry could have been
>> adopted by his mother) The original birth certificate is the
>> only legal vital statistics record of a person's birth
>> parents, birth location, birth date, etc… I can get a
>> certificate of live birth for a dead person; I cannot get a
>> birth certificate of a dead person without Deceased on it.
>> (I've tried)
>>
>> There is no evidence Barry Soetoro ever lawfully changed
>> his name to Barrack Hussein Obama. There is no proof Barry
>> Soetoro was born with the name "Barrack Hussein Obama". I'm
>> willing to bet the name Barrack Hussein Obama is not present
>> on the real birth certificate as Barry's birth name or as
>> Barry's birth father. I have pictures of me with my mother
>> and Jimmy Buffet… that doesn't make him my father even if
>> I start using the name Jimmy Buffet.
>>
>> The public knows Barry Soetoro finished high school in
>> Hawaii as Barry Soetoro and attended Occidental as Barry
>> Soetoro where he did drugs and flunked out of school. After
>> dropping
>> out of Occidental, Barry showed up in New York, homeless
>> and on drugs. (Barry's own admission) Barry then hooked up
>> with a Pakistani to live with and traveled back to Indonesia
>> on his new boyfriend's dime to renew his Indonesian passport
>> and traveled to Pakistan with him.
>>
>> Ask any law enforcement officer in a large city or
>> detective and they will tell you homeless young men on drugs
>> in large cities usually end up as male prostitutes.
>> Barry ended up as a world traveler with a degree… (Not
>> likely)
>>
>> Barry Soetoro returned to New York from Pakistan and began
>> using the fictitious name Obama for some reason. (again
>> Barry Soetoro's own admission) One could only suspect that a
>> person addicted to drugs, returning from Pakistan to New
>> York, (the main route for Afghan heroin into the U.S.), is
>> the reason Barry had a reason to start using a new name.
>> There are literally over 1 million open warrants on file in
>> New York…maybe Barry is one of them?
>>
>> After spending some time in New York allegedly working
>> under the name Obama, it appears Barry used the fictitious
>> name "Barrack Hussein Obama" for the first time to file his
>> federal taxes in Connecticut at a Post Office Box for the
>> purpose of evading paying taxes in New York and /or to
>> establish a new identity. (This is a felony with no statute
>> of limitation.)
>>
>> When the IRS received Barry Soetoro's federal tax filing,
>> the IRS could not attach the name Barrack Hussein Obama to
>> the SSI number provided or the address provided. So the IRS
>> assigned the fictitious name "Barrack Hussein Obama" a tax
>> ID number for a person from Connecticut (Where Barry
>> unlawfully filed a federal tax form using a false name).
>> Barry Soetoro began using this tax ID number as his SSI
>> number when using the fictitious name Barrack Obama. This is
>> why Barry Soetoro has a Connecticut SSI number. When I
>> worked for the IRS, I saw this occur more than once and yes,
>> it is a felony to knowingly file a fraudulent federal tax
>> forms. Most of the politicians that cheat on their taxes
>> claim it was an
>> accident. That is how they get away with their tax cheat
>> crimes. Using a fake name is no accident.
>>
>> It appears Barry fled New York to Chicago using his new
>> identity to get a job . He likely ordered a fake diploma to
>> bolster his new identity as "Obama". Fake Diploma's were
>> very big in the 80's and diploma mills were even being used
>> by federal workers to get promotions. There is evidence his
>> alleged attendance at Columbia was faked (Barry never
>> attended Columbia) and Barry lied his way into Harvard (he
>> had no transcripts to get in)... Including telling the Saudi
>> royal family he was fighting in Afghanistan with the Muslim
>> Jihad against the Russians, so they would help him get into
>> a law school.
>>
>> The Saudi's apparently loved Barry's story of Jihad in
>> Pakistan/Afghanistan and paid for Barry to attend Harvard
>> under the name "Obama". The Saudi family has admitted
>> paying for Obama to attend Harvard and gave Harvard a gift
>> of $20 million dollars. Harvard in turn made their special
>> attendee President of the law review, a person that never
>> wrote a single law review.... I guess that is what $20
>> million buys at Harvard.
>>
>> It is unlikely Barry was a Jihadist and was most likely a
>> drug mule if anything, maybe even a CIA street hire to haul
>> Afghan heroin back to New York, so the Afghans could buy
>> U.S. made stinger missiles with U.S. dollars to shoot down
>> Russian helicopters?... I hired people overseas to do work
>> below my pay grade all the time, even foreign nationals... I
>> think this is the story Barry told the Saudi's, but he was
>> most likely really just a drug mule/dealer and is probably
>> still wanted on an outstanding warrant in New York.
>>
>> Barry's selective service registration is not normal
>> either…http://www.debbieschlussel.com/4428/exclusive-did-next-commmander-in...After
>> I looked at Barry's selective service filing I noticed it
>> was most likely fraudulent too based on the name he used.
>> Barry did not start using the name "Obama" until he returned
>> from Pakistan (long after he flunked out of school in
>> California) His selective service record (maintained in
>> Chicago coincidentally) shows he registered at a Hawaiian
>> post office as Obama in Sept 1980...which is a problem,
>> because Barry was getting high in California at Occidental
>> in Sept 1980 (Barry's own admission) and was not using the
>> fictitious name "Obama" at that time. Barry began using the
>> fictitious name "Obama" only after he returned from
>> Pakistan. The selective service filing is fraudulent.
>>
>> NEW NOTE - On the the Selective Service Registration, Barry
>> did not have the Connecticut Tax ID number he used on the
>> Registration until after he began using the name "Obama" in
>> New York. More evidence his Selective Service filing is
>> fraudulent.
>>
>>
>> Barry returned to Chicago and attend a semi-christian
>> radical black church with his first female love Michelle.
>> Barry admits keeping in touch with Phil Boener, who traveled
>> to New York from Occidental to be with Barry and was most
>> likely Barry's first love.
>>
>> Barry still could not get a real job, because he was still
>> a fraud, even with his Harvard degree in hand he could lie
>> and take the Bar exam, but he could not work as a lawyer for
>> a major law firm without a back ground investigation and he
>> would never pass one. So, Michelle got Barry a job at
>> her law firm. Barry never filed a case alone and never filed
>> a motion. He wrote lots of memos according to the law firm
>> where Barry worked. (I think they know Barry is a fraud and
>> don't want to be sued by previous clients) Barry rescinded
>> his law licenses, so as not to be disbarred for fraud. The
>> Bar knows Barry lied on his application. Michelle also had
>> to turn over her law license for her involvement in
>> corruption with the Chicago mayor's office.
>>
>>
>> With time on his hands, Barry, a well spoken black man, was
>> able to get elected to a state office, oddly because he
>> looked for fraud in his opponents' voter registrations and
>> got his opponent disqualified from running. Barry, a well
>> versed liar was a natural in state politics. He used his
>> political influence to get himself a position as a lecturer
>> at Chicago's law school. Barry embellished this position as
>> a "professor of law" which everyone knows is completely
>> false. Barry was not a professor, or even a specialist at
>> anything but lying.
>>
>> On a whim Barry ran for United States Senate for the State
>> of Illinois. Politicians do this all the time to make a name
>> for themselves even if they can't win. At the time the
>> Republican Ryan was a shoe in for the Senate seat, so no
>> real Democratic contenders entered the race, but Barry did.
>> On a fluke after the primary Ryan's wife Jeri Ryan (Seven of
>> nine from Star Trek) went public that her husband was making
>> her have sex with other people while he watched. Ryan
>> dropped out and Alan Keys moved from Maryland to run against
>> Barry Soetoro.
>>
>> The election got all kinds of press because there was no
>> blacks in the U.S. Senate and one of these black men was
>> going to be a Senator. Alan Keys did his best to warn
>> everyone Barry was not who he claimed to be, but the public
>> saw him as a carpet bagger. Barry kept the lie going and
>> presented himself as a clean black man that talked like a
>> white man... Illinois elected Barry to U.S. Senate. The
>> Democrats had already began scrubbing Barry's back ground
>> when Ryan dropped out.
>>
>> Phil, Barry's boy friend from Occidental, was found working
>> in California as a communications specialist (receptionist)
>> for a dental hygienist school and given a diploma from
>> Columbia and a cover story. The rest of Barry's drug friends
>> were all given jobs or money by the Democrat machine to keep
>> quiet.
>>
>> Because Barry was such a news maker as the only Black in
>> the Senate, and he could speak like a white man he was made
>> key speaker for the Democrat convention. Barry then decided
>> to run for President to keep the lie going. No one thought
>> to question Barry's back ground in the Democrat party...
>> They helped cover up the ugly back ground. The only person
>> jumping up and down warning Barry was not who he claimed to
>> be was Alan Keys and he was discarded as just an angry
>> loser.
>>
>> Now we have a complete fraud sitting in the Office of the
>> President. Clearly, he is the most corrupt, inexperienced,
>> and ignorant President in the history of the United States
>> who's only quality is that he can lie with a straight face.
 

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bathtub crankbait said:
FPF said:
GrumpieGills said:
November 4th, 2008- start of an error.
lmao. those kids to the left of yoru post certainly agree ;0 they're dancing in approval of your opinon. lol
The error started long before that.
ok your right it was January 20, 2001 :D
 

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i love how the article refers to his friend as his boyfriend, assumes he was a male prostitute, and calls his first love his "first female love". lmao
 

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Good story...But I call it Fiction...

Anyone who has been on the forum for the last four and a half years can attest to the fact that I vote for Republicans running for national office...During the last presidential election I stirred more crap than Emeril in favor of McCain...

That being said, I never entertained the "Birther" argument because anyone can conclude that the Clintons, with all their wealth and political clout, would have resolved that issue before the Democratic Primary and Convention.

If he was born in Kenya Hillary would have found the midwife that cut the chord and put them on TV.
 

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Good story...But I call it Fiction...

Anyone who has been on the forum for the last four and a half years can attest to the fact that I vote for Republicans running for national office...During the last presidential election I stirred more crap than Emeril in favor of McCain...

That being said, I never entertained the "Birther" argument because anyone can conclude that the Clintons, with all their wealth and political clout, would have resolved that issue before the Democratic Primary and Convention.

If he was born in Kenya Hillary would have found the midwife that cut the chord and put them on TV.
then why not simply put the arguement to rest by proving it to the whole of america? presenting a birth certificate shouldnt be a huge issue, unless of course you dont have one
 

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Are you going to be hung up on it the rest of your life if he doesn't?

Better men than you have already taken the issue to court and it's been thrown out...
if you look at the other link posted you'll find that many are being heard in court actually. 18 cases on this exact subject.

i think the fact that a person not qualified for presidency actually made it to becomming the leader of our country is scary, dont you? of course i wont be hung up on it forever. he'll be out of office in another year. my only point is if he could prove us all wrong why doesnt he?
 

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Micheal Hawk said:
Some villages miss their idiot and some hockey games miss their horn BLOWer.......


The only thing more frightening than "Obama's past" is your future.

DID " You can't fix FAHHHH KING stupid" :)
wow very insightful post. what do you see in my future? please do tell. im dying to know your opinion
 

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I wish fish were in a barrel like this at Atown...
 

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Micheal Hawk said:
FPF said:
Micheal Hawk said:
Some villages miss their idiot and some hockey games miss their horn BLOWer.......


The only thing more frightening than "Obama's past" is your future.

DID " You can't fix FAHHHH KING stupid" :)
wow very insightful post. what do you see in my future? please do tell. im dying to know your opinion

Well seeing that I managed to engage a great mind like yours....... I guess, I should answer.


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" I see....... I see........ nothing in your future, absolutely nothing"
well that was a disappointment. i thought you'd be a little more creative than that. at least add a bwahahahahahahaha like you did in the other post. otherwise its just boring....
 

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Sorry, but the only thing this makes me frightened of is that there are people in our country who will believe anything, no matter how much evidence points against it, and continue their arguments ad nauseum.
 
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