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I have to get up to the coach man. Elevenmile has fish like that but not many. There is hundreds if not thousands of 10-15 pounders in Elevenmile but not many 25 pound hogs. I don't know if I should wait until the fall or go this spring. I will have 4 days so I think I could get into them pretty good with that much time on the water. I hate to keep hashing on this but Spinney usted to havethe fastest growth rate for pike of any water in North America. Everybody knows what happen to that lake.