I still wanna know how you guys are getting these bass while being visible to them. Seems like when I was at Quincy or the ponds at Chatfield it would be more like hunting and keeping myself hidden from then in order to catc them. I might just not use the right stuff, now when you guys are doing stuff weightless how are you retreiving them? Is it just rise and fall or are you scooting it along the bottom or near the top? I need to get a video or something that can show me how the bait is working in the water so I know what I'm doing.