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I'm working at a bass pro shop in TN, and the new craze is red line for conventional spin gear. Research or something has shown that fish cannot see a red line at all. I'm like WTF???!! Then why all these years have I been putting red gilling under all my flies? I'm pretty damn sure fish can see red, but maybe its differant with a red mono or floro line. your thoughts....
 
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Berkley Trilene Big Game has come in a pink color for many years (at least 15 that I know of) for the same purpose. I have to admit though, it is more popular for salt water than for fresh.
 

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i heard that red is the first color to be able to disappear when it goes into the water?  never understood how that worked with red color on lures if this is true with the line color...
 

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Ive been using Cajun Red line for years. Cant tell you if its better than anything else out there but its all I use. It has great knot strengh. It does have alittle memory but oh well.

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There is kind of a fallacy at work here. Just because the color becomes indistinguishable under water does not mean the line (or lure) becomes invisible.

It still has a certain degree of light reflectivity, and it will appear somewhere between very light and very dark, depending on the amount of its light absorption. Fish can distinguish very well between light and dark, no matter whether they can register the color or not. So a dark red color on a lure, for example, might appear black or dark gray to the fish, but it certainly would not become invisible to the fish.

The same holds for line. The fish might not know the line is red, but it will see the line at some level on the gray scale.

If you really don't want the fish to see the line, forget the colors and use fluorocarbon line. It has the same refractive index as water, and it truly does disappear under water.

If the line or lure is in the upper 4 ft. or so of the water column, then the light hasn't gone through enough water yet to filter out the red color, and it will truly appear red to any fish which is also in the upper 4 ft. So red colors on flies and topwater lures do make sense.
 

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I read something like what WE said.

Our understanding why fish see colors like red long after it should be gone from the light spectrum is changing. Fish have different amounts of the different cones in there eyes than we do. Some of those cones are more sensitive to reds and yellos, others blues greens, light and dark. Some species have lots more red sensitive cones.

I think fish see reds well after they should be grey. Explain to me why a red and silver bait sometimes out fishes 10:1 a blue and silver bait in 150 feet of water? Put two red/sliver on a second rod and they both catch fish. While you drag that blue and silver bait around all day and not get a bite. Other times its only blue (or green or yellow or orange) they like, and the same bait in red will not get hit.

So, I don't want a line out there that fish can see, so I like florocarbon (pline CFX leader is best in my book).
 

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If only I could be a fish for one day...I could return to the human race and make millions giving difinitve answers to our long going questions and wonders! :p
 

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PescadoDiablo4 said:
If only I could be a fish for one day...I could return to the human race and make millions giving difinitve answers to our long going questions and wonders! :p
With my luck if were fish for a day, I would end the day battered & deep fryed :D
 
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I haven't tried the "cajun" line yet so I can only express my theory. I plan to try it this year. I do think red hooks help and I use them extensively on cranks and what-not.

The rage right now is red hooks, trebbles, jigs, etc... to entice the predatory instict in fish towards blood, ie.. fish can see red.

"Cajun Red" fishing line is red because fish cannot see it below a certain depth due to the color spectrum and light transmisions in water.

?? ?? ?? ?? Hmmm, I'm confused.
 

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Like most of you guys, I just can't resist a new fishing gadget - always looking for the edge. So I got some cajun red line this spring to see how it performs.

The fishing on Pueblo this spring was so erratic I couldn't tell if the red line made any difference. It sucks for night fishing - it's too hard to see.

On a trip to Minnesota last month I spent half a day trolling for pike with shad raps.
Fireline on one pole and cajun red on the other, with 12 inch steel leaders, trolling 10 to 15 feet deep. It's completely a reaction bite. Water was moderately clear (3 feet vis.) and the weather was overcast.

Action was fairly steady, with 15 to 24 inch pike. Fireline out fished cajun red by 8 to 1. After that I switched 2nd pole to fireline. A total of 15 pike and 2 smallmouths caught and released.

As far as I'm concerned, the fish have spoken: red line is visable. I won't use it again.
(You can't argue with the fish, it only makes you look crazier.)
 

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I had 2 poles Ice fishing last yr and one had the cajun on and the other my normal trilene..... I caught 6 fish that day all on the trilene pole and not a bite which was 2 ft away or so on the cajun...I dont like the cajun ...just my opinion tho... Ill stick with trilene it produces better for me..and I got alot of tangles with the cajun
 

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I use to troll for Kokes alot at Blue Mesa. My favorite colors were chartruese and red. Whenever it was cloudy, or dark skies, red was the color! Even at 35-40 feet deep? I always thought red basically turned to black at depth?

Cajan way be a quality line, (I have never used it)? But I don't believe it is invisable?
 

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ive been having a questions about this, they claim that its invisible to fish ... but why do they make red hooks?
 

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And red and white Daredevils have caught a fish or two...shouldnt they just have made white ones since fish couldnt see the red part?
 

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mista tuan said:
why do they make red hooks?

I cant say for sure but ive been told the red hooks are made to catch fisherman not fish(if you know what I mean)


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You're telling me to return the three spools of Cajun that I just bought? Seems like I'm always wasting money! :) I spooled Cajun on one of my rods but it's my light set-up so I haven't used it much. Brought it to Big Mac a couple of weeks ago and hit a few shad and a 22" walleye. Got a few more hits but that was all. I'll try it again this week and let you know how it goes compared to my Trilene.

FYI--Stren used to make this "golden" line--really bright yellow and I caught tons and tons of fish with it...hmmm...........
 
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