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I considered this rod vs. the Winston Biix. One of the guys I fish with most fishes this rod... We switch all the time, so I fish it a few times a year and love it. It is a little heavier than my rod, but honestly, I kinda prefer that... I kinda like a little extra weight on the rod, but I think I am the exception. I still prefer the Winston because it is a little faster, but it's not by much.

It is a great rod period. I was not a huge fan of the SLT which this replaced, but I think this rod improved the issues with the SLT. I feel the SLT was a little sloppy at distance... and lacked a little backbone in the wind... The ZXL seems to have a lot more control even though it is not super fast.

It is a smooth casting rod, and I cannot imagine you wont like it unless you really want fast action... It is fluid and I hear many dry fly casting enthusiests swear up and down this is the finest graphite rod on the market.

I can't imagine you wont love it.
 

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Great info Oyey. Thanks.

I love my SLT. I really love my SLT and was sad to see it go. That is why I am trying the ZXL, I think it will be more forgiving than the TCX cannon

I miss fishing around folks with Winston's. When I guided out of Oxbow we used a lot of Winstons and I loved those rods for mellowing thisngs out a bit and having a little more feel. I also like a little wieght in my hand with a sensitive tip. The feel from the old Powells and Winstons were tremendous. I really do try and use all rods with no bias but man after you try the rest and then pick up a sage...I just love their rods. I think it has a lot to do with my casting style as well and what feels the most familiar in my hand.

I have a truck load of rods and many brands but for some reason I grab a sage when I am heading out.

I am stoked to say the least. I will be chuckin and duckin in a week.
 

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Oyey said:
I considered this rod vs. the Winston Biix. One of the guys I fish with most fishes this rod... We switch all the time, so I fish it a few times a year and love it. It is a little heavier than my rod, but honestly, I kinda prefer that... I kinda like a little extra weight on the rod, but I think I am the exception. I still prefer the Winston because it is a little faster, but it's not by much.

It is a great rod period. I was not a huge fan of the SLT which this replaced, but I think this rod improved the issues with the SLT. I feel the SLT was a little sloppy at distance... and lacked a little backbone in the wind... The ZXL seems to have a lot more control even though it is not super fast.

It is a smooth casting rod, and I cannot imagine you wont like it unless you really want fast action... It is fluid and I hear many dry fly casting enthusiests swear up and down this is the finest graphite rod on the market.

I can't imagine you wont love it.
Hey Jason,

What about the poor build quality and poor customer service you encountered with your Z-AXIS? Wouldn't this rod potentially suffer the same problems? ;)
 

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Oyey said:
I considered this rod vs. the Winston Biix. One of the guys I fish with most fishes this rod... We switch all the time, so I fish it a few times a year and love it. It is a little heavier than my rod, but honestly, I kinda prefer that... I kinda like a little extra weight on the rod, but I think I am the exception. I still prefer the Winston because it is a little faster, but it's not by much.

It is a great rod period. I was not a huge fan of the SLT which this replaced, but I think this rod improved the issues with the SLT. I feel the SLT was a little sloppy at distance... and lacked a little backbone in the wind... The ZXL seems to have a lot more control even though it is not super fast.

It is a smooth casting rod, and I cannot imagine you wont like it unless you really want fast action... It is fluid and I hear many dry fly casting enthusiests swear up and down this is the finest graphite rod on the market.

I can't imagine you wont love it.
Hey Jason,

What about the poor build quality and poor customer service you encountered with your Z-AXIS? Wouldn't this rod potentially suffer the same problems? ;)
That was one of the reasons I went with the winston. Man I had a hard time with that rod... I don't necessarily think that represents Sage, but yes, my experience was horrible.

I did cast a TCX and if I were entering a casting comp, that may be the rod I chose, but not for trout on CO waters IMO.

I have actually considered seling my Winston to go to a little faster rod, but I am still on the fence with that... I tend to use my 4wt more than my 5wt and I may end up with a rod specificly for high sticking and czech nymphing as my 5...

Who knows... I like collecting rods.. I want a TFO Finesse like yours too HC... I love that rod. I also casted a 7 piece 9' 3wt that was just smooth as silk... would be nice for hiking etc... and it was around $150.

what can I say, I'm a junkie. Better for me than crack though!!! O0
 

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human cannonball said:
Oyey said:
I considered this rod vs. the Winston Biix. One of the guys I fish with most fishes this rod... We switch all the time, so I fish it a few times a year and love it. It is a little heavier than my rod, but honestly, I kinda prefer that... I kinda like a little extra weight on the rod, but I think I am the exception. I still prefer the Winston because it is a little faster, but it's not by much.

It is a great rod period. I was not a huge fan of the SLT which this replaced, but I think this rod improved the issues with the SLT. I feel the SLT was a little sloppy at distance... and lacked a little backbone in the wind... The ZXL seems to have a lot more control even though it is not super fast.

It is a smooth casting rod, and I cannot imagine you wont like it unless you really want fast action... It is fluid and I hear many dry fly casting enthusiests swear up and down this is the finest graphite rod on the market.

I can't imagine you wont love it.
Hey Jason,

What about the poor build quality and poor customer service you encountered with your Z-AXIS? Wouldn't this rod potentially suffer the same problems? ;)


Better for me than crack though!!! O0
Hear that! It's a LITTLE cheaper too!
 

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I have the ZXL in a 9' 5wt. Plenty of backbone with bigger fish but protects lighter tippets. Nothing bad to say about that rod. Just fantastic.
 

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This rod is ridiculous. Felt a little soft at first pop but as I learned how to slow my elbow down and speed my forearm up a bit the rod just felt insane. The transfer of power felt as though it started at my shoulder and went all the way to the rod tip flawlessly. I never felt as though the rod was ahead of me or that I could not charge it without a perfect timed retrieve...its forgiving, way forgiving. The TCR would slap your face and make you feel like a school girl ***** while the SLT seemed like I had to really impress her...the ZXL is just happy with what you give her...

Dooods.
 
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