yea i also wanted to say thx to everyone i was also glad to meet u all and to Ken a BIG thx for settin it all up and doin what your doin.....and also a BIG thx to work2fish for takin me and my kid out today on your boat i had a great time even though those frickin fish were bein stubborn all day im just happy i met some fellow fisherman its been gettin kinda old goin bymyself all the time