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Thought this was cool, tiger trout stocked in Gross 2015(see attachment) along with the yearly rainbow brown and tiger muskie. Hopefully it becomes a better fishery in the years to come as long as Colorado parks and wildlife can find a more effective way to cull the white/long nose suckers? Not complaining I enjoy fishing Gross but 45% suckers is brutal. My question is how accurate are those gill net surveys being such a deep reservoir? A 0% survey of tiger muskie?? 2012-2015 4,200 tiger muskie stocked, wonder how many muskie will survive from that socking? How can they accurately determine if the tiger muskie will target suckers and not trout?? Because of the large population of suckers being a abundant food supply??
 

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They need to do it to lake john where it will do the fishery, the surrounding community some good...do it to make a destination fishery...Gross (aptly named) is never going to become a destination fishery...

Muskies will eat whatever ventures into their wheelhouse...and yes it will be alot of trout looking up for bugs...and a lot of suckers...
 

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Zman is right. Tiger Trout or Tiger Muskie could go a long way to removing suckers and improving trout fishing. Back in the day, Parvin Lake (Red Feathers area) was kind of a mediocre fishery. The size of trout were nothing to write home about. After Tiger Muskie were stocked, the average size of trout increased significantly. Another question I have is why more browns aren't stocked in Lake John. I may be wrong but I believe North Delaney Butte Res doesn't have nearly the sucker load that the other North Park reservoirs have. And we all know about the beasts (rainbow and brown) that reside in that reservoir.
 

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Zman is right. Tiger Trout or Tiger Muskie could go a long way to removing suckers and improving trout fishing. Back in the day, Parvin Lake (Red Feathers area) was kind of a mediocre fishery. The size of trout were nothing to write home about. After Tiger Muskie were stocked, the average size of trout increased significantly. Another question I have is why more browns aren't stocked in Lake John. I may be wrong but I believe North Delaney Butte Res doesn't have nearly the sucker load that the other North Park reservoirs have. And we all know about the beasts (rainbow and brown) that reside in that reservoir.
Sorry to sidetrack the original topic, pretty sure the DOW believes if they stocked more browns in Lake John they would eat the many fingerlings they put in there every summer. They claimed the gravel filter on the inlet would prevent sucker minnows from entering. The last round of poisoning and reclaiming they thought the filter was totally fixed. Time will tell, the lake is full of minnows now and guessing they are a mix of many things.
 

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Screw Gross, very unapproachable body of water, too rocky and just lame fishing. Sub-catchable trout, yea no thanks.
 

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Thats cool they put tiger trout in Gross. I agree that that place is a challenge to fish with all of the steep shorelines, many rocks and snags that steal your lures and the evil winds.
The lake doesn't give up her fish without a fight, but they are there if you take the time to learn the lake.
 

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Something mystical about Gross don't know what it is? It is a tough reservoir, I like the challenge. I've had skunk days and really good days. I've been there on a calm mornings crystal clear water and had fish come out of the dark depths and slam my lure its amazing. I've caught everything from there except the suckers. 2009 caught my first tiger muskie 38 inches. I wasn't even trying to catch one. Was trying to learn how use a bass lure and its action because I had been skunked all day. I had minnows fallowing it and I hooked him barley on the inside of his mouth, lure and line were outside of his mouth other wise would have been cut right off. I thought I had a large trout on until I got it to shore. The line broke as I pulled him out then frantically threw him on the rocks. I'm still mind blown and amazed I landed a muskie. Guess you could say I was lucky. Max power I like that she doesn't give up her fish without a fight.
 

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Welp... I just saw a trailer full of dead cattle.
 

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Yup HAD to kill it. Damn that freedom of choice, eh....smh. I practice catch and release 9 times out of ten. It was a legal keep of 38 inches from the illegal 36 inches and my first tiger muskie ever. But when I here crying of nonconformity from a group of opinions on c&r, it makes me want to keep any fish species of legal limit within regs more and more.
 

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Yup HAD to kill it. Damn that freedom of choice, eh....smh. I practice catch and release 9 times out of ten. It was a legal keep of 38 inches from the illegal 36 inches and my first tiger muskie ever. But when I here crying of nonconformity from a group of opinions on c&r, it makes me want to keep any fish species of legal limit within regs more and more.
you're missing the point.

gross like most mountain lakes... is a sucker's paradise. they put in tiger muskies because they grow fast, and have the voracious appetites of their parents without the risk of them taking over a lake unchecked like pike sometimes has a tendency to do... IE they put them in to control sucker or other populations of fish. Same with wipers, splake, tiger trout, etc. they also put in relatively few tiger muskies in gross as fingerlings. from there, after mortality and predation, you can imagine how few there actually are in that lake.
the overall attitude on this site here is that Colorado fishing sucks and could be alot better if managed more fairly towards the desires of all fishermen who come here, which is why people hold contempt for the CPW and how they go about maintaining the fisheries.. hence why fishermen who "get it", tend to be more vigilant with selective harvest. so it's not the smartest move here, to post a picture of a big tiger muskie on a stringer.

keep whatever you want as long as you're legal, but just because it's legal doesn't make it right. some food for thought if you continue to post on this forum, or ask people for help, post reports, etc.
 

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keep whatever you want as long as you're legal, but just because it's legal doesn't make it right. some food for thought if you continue to post on this forum, or ask people for help, post reports, etc.
Ding, Ding. Winner, winner; chicken dinner!!!!
 

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No I get it and I appreciate your comment. It's the jumping to conclusions from a photo and judging me as if I'm a careless fisherman without asking questions. It was in 2009 I was a novice at fishing and uneducated. Lesson learned I made a mistake didn't think members were going to get offended at it without questioning me first. I should have incorporated with that post that I would have gladly let that fish go If I had the knowledge I have now. Just thought I would share the catch my life. I just don't like being submissive towards the judged comments because of a mistake I made when I was young and uneducated. It makes me want to say stupid comments back without question. My bad. I'm here to help and maintain/promote the right fishing practices of selective harvesting to create a better fishery. Happy fishing
 

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No I get it and I appreciate your comment. It's the jumping to conclusions from a photo and judging me as if I'm a careless fisherman without asking questions. It was in 2009 I was a novice at fishing and uneducated. Lesson learned I made a mistake didn't think members were going to get offended at it without questioning me first. I should have incorporated with that post that I would have gladly let that fish go If I had the knowledge I have now. Just thought I would share the catch my life. I just don't like being submissive towards the judged comments because of a mistake I made when I was young and uneducated. It makes me want to say stupid comments back without question. My bad. I'm here to help and maintain/promote the right fishing practices of selective harvesting to create a better fishery. Happy fishing
Issue yourself a citation with a fine of $30. Pay your your fine at the local liquor store and take two 12-packs of Colorado craft beer home. Then contemplate your criminality and resolve to not be a repeat offender.
 
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