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WILDLIFE COMMISSION TO LOOK AT PROPOSED FISHING REGULATIONS

Colorado anglers could see some changes in fishing regulations for 2006, including a proposal to modify the current definition of ?artificial flies and lures?. The changes include the addition of a specific definition of "bait". This was requested by the Division of Wildlife (DOW) law enforcement section and members of the public. There is a concern that new commercial products more like bait than traditional plastic manufactured imitation products and may be detrimental to trout populations in special regulation waters.

A first draft of the proposed statewide fishing regulations for 2006-2010 will be presented to the Colorado Wildlife Commission for discussion and recommendation on Thursday, July 14 in Grand Junction.

Another proposal would change the bag limit and possession table in the annual fishing brochure. The table would be modified to remove the reference to Greenback cutthroat trout and restructure the species groups in a more logical manner.

A regulation will also be added to uniformly protect cutthroat core conservation waters. This is being done to simplify the regulations, but changes the regulations only in wording not necessarily in the actual effect of the regulation.

Some special regulation waters could also see changes. Big Creek Lake could see an increase in the number of lake trout and splake that could be kept from one to three with only one over 26 inches. A slot limit for bass could be added to encourage the take of smaller fish at McPhee reservoir to address an over abundance of smallmouth bass of less than ten inches. At North Sterling Reservoir there are a number of proposals. A regulation could be added to protect trophy wipers while still allowing for take and a size limit for largemouth bass could be added to make management more consistent with similar nearby managed bass waters. The bag limit for lake trout at Granby Reservoir could be changed to four lake trout of any size. There could also be some additional reaches of the Gunnison, South Fork of the South Platte, and North Fork of the Poudre rivers that could become artificial flies and lures only waters. Brown trout and rainbow trout size limit regulations could be fine tuned at the Delaney Butte Lakes to be uniform at all three lakes, and a dam spawning closure is also recommended for North Delaney Butte Lake to protect spawning brown trout.

The Wildlife Commission will also take into consideration walleye, saugeye and sauger statewide size and bag limits. A discussion on three different proposals will take place.

The new regulations will take effect Jan. 1, 2006, after final approval in September by the Commission.

The Colorado Wildlife Commission will be meeting on Thursday, July 14 and Friday, July 15 at the Holiday Inn located at 755 Horizon Drive in Grand Junction. The fishing regulation discussion is scheduled for 1:00 PM on July 14th.

For more information about Division of Wildlife go to: http://wildlife.state.co.us.
--Press release from CDOW http://wildlife.state.co.us.
 

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YEP THATS THE ONE THAT SAYS NO ARTIFICIALS WITH SCENT ALLOWED. I'M SORRY BUT THE ONLY ONES I USE ARE FOR BASS AND HAVE NEVER HAD ONE SWALLOW IT. DO SOMETHING LIKE SINGLE BARBLESS HOOKS OR SOMETHING. I AM SO SICK OF THE TROUT PEOPLE.
 

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YEP THATS THE ONE THAT SAYS NO ARTIFICIALS WITH SCENT ALLOWED. I'M SORRY BUT THE ONLY ONES I USE ARE FOR BASS AND HAVE NEVER HAD ONE SWALLOW IT. DO SOMETHING LIKE SINGLE BARBLESS HOOKS OR SOMETHING. I AM SO SICK OF THE TROUT PEOPLE.
Show up at the meeting and voice your opinion then, cause you know the trout people will.
 

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THE LAST ONE IS IN GRAND JUNCTION. THIS IS THE FIRST IVE HEARD OF IT. MAYBE I CAN FIGURE SOMETHING OUT
 

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If anyone listened To Terry Wigstrums(Spelling) show on Saturday he did two segments on this.


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I AM SO SICK OF THE TROUT PEOPLE.
I hear ya but get used to it. Thats what brings the DOW $. And lets face it, thats what this is all about....the big green $.

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more crazy rules from the state that has the craziest rules. no scented plastics becoming bait is a pathetic rule indeed...
 

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The DOW is digging their own grave. The more restrictions they put on fishing, the less fisherman there are. The less fisherman there are the less money they get. Maybe the government should stop paying these DOW peope so much money and put that money towards stocking more fish. I understand that to protect the fish we need to have some control, but soon teh whole state will be Barbless Flies only. I will wait to see what happens before i get really upset about the DOW. They havent really done too much to the fishing regulations yet to make me mad.
 

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They better quit this artificial lures and flies only expansion. Its just the TU people shoving this crap down our throats.
There is no problem with drifting live bait in a large river. Trout seldom swallow the hook this way and it should be allowed on all large rivers without exception.
And allowing four lake trout of any size to be kept at Granby. Have they lost their mind? The release of big lakers should be mandated. These people just arbitrarly throw these restrictions at us without our consent and with little or no biological evidence that they would help.
I am tired of more and more restrictions. I think we need to start suing the DOW for this travesty. They are nothing but an organization of clowns and tyrants. It's socialism.
And that some plastics may be detrimental to Trout populations? This is an outrage. The only "evidence" they have is the bitching of Flies Unlimited, er Trout Unlimited.
If they really keep doing this by expanding flies and lures only water and increasing what lures are banned while allowing all flies, they will find people who will simply ignore the regulations and will purposely violate them as a form of civil disobedience.
And trout bring in money, yes. However if we had more fisheries for big pike, big bass and the like, that would actually bring in A LOT more revenue than trout.
I will be at the meeting voiceing my displeasure.
 

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IITV,

Amen brother!!! Trout=family fishing trips which in turn = $.

Pike=hardcore fisherman aswell as most other fish aside from trout=not as much money as trout.,  IMO this is the prob. I dont think in this state people start there kids fishing by showing them how to catch pike, That is the prob. The DOW knows that and thats why they are so gun-hoe on trout. Its all about the $$$$$ Its BS

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These meetings are just a dog and pony show. Does anyone actually believe they can go to a meeting and change the DOW's mind. About anything. Its just for show. This way they can say the received input from the public. They decided in private meetings months ago what they want to do.

Tell them they should put pike in Tarryall. Tell them they listen to TU but not the average guy out there fishing. Tell them we should have a slot on bass and walleye at Pueblo instead of a min. length. They'll thank you for your thoughts and tell you they'll take it under consideration. They'll write you off as just an agitator. Ed
 

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However if we had more fisheries for big pike, big bass and the like, that would actually bring in A LOT more revenue than trout.
We just all need to face it that most "fisherman" fish for trout in CO. I would say that over 80% of people buying fishing licenses go out only for trout. Trout are the reason we are able to fish for species such as walleye, the DOW trades our trout for different fish. I love trout fishing in early march because they are the only thing biting. There are pros and cons but trout are here to stay and I am fine with that.
 

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These people just arbitrarly throw these restrictions at us without our consent and with little or no biological evidence that they would help.
I'm sorry but you complain and other complain right along with you... I have posted about all kinds of meetings where they ask the public to show up and comment about this kind of stuff. I have been to a couple. I have not seen any of you there, instead you feel content on complaining in the forum. Saying stuff like it has no evidence or what not or that its a dog and pony show, that the meeting mean nothing. If you know what your talking about call them, tell them you want to show a powerpoint at the meeting or something. DO SOMETHING! is all I'm saying.
You complain about TU, but they are doing something and something they believe in. Musky Inc, is working with the DOW for movements in what they believe in. Stand up be counted organize, dont just moan.
 

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Epic,

I think that was the point he was trying to make. That weather you ***** and moan here or goto a meeting and do the same the results are the same. Their just going to push you aside as they've already made up their minds.

As for "I have not seen any of you there, instead you feel content on complaining in the forum." As a tax payer and license holder it is our right to complain here or there. And I dont think it is complaining if we're just having an open forum on the subject. Why is it if you have a opinion on something and dont do something about it your complaing? Why cant it just be a voice?

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yes a voice is nice but i think if your going to be a voice
shouldnt your voice be where it will do some good

yes i see it as crying, bit--ing ,and moaning

but i keep hearing the same people crying

when the dow is looking for volunteers to help out with
some of their programs are these same people the ones
rushing out there to help

all im saying is if your going to be a voice be one thats going to help and be willing to listen and learn
 

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Whos crying? Thats what im saying....as soon as someone disagrees or wants their voice heard all you hear is why "don't you do something about it". Its not my job to listen to the public, thats their job. They only get paid and do what they do because of people like me and you. Even though we're on diffrent sides of the tracks they work for us, We dont work for them! Ive emailed them many times ask why they dont post dates and number's on when they stock other fish aside from trout. Ive also asked why every contest I hear about in the Metro area is for trout. Why not a NO BAIT contest?

These are my opinions and are not ment to insult or attack anyone.


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what im saying is do you guys know any of the dow by their first name

do you talk to any of them one on one

i do one of the guys i see almost every day
and i do stop and i do talk to him about everything
he tells me where and when they have put fish in
he even tells me where the fish are biting and what their biting on
 

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Jay, I'm not saying not to disagree. I'm not saying not to voice your opinion. But if you feel passionate like some members here obviously do as the majority of their posts all resemble the same thing, then DO IT RIGHT. Organize, show evidence that supports your cause, and follow up, go to meetings, make your voice heard, give back to the community, all that good stuff.
 
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